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  1. #11
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    Zael Magnus
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    This is a horrible idea tbh and wouldn't improve the current situation at all - the exact same amount of players would get the shaft with the only change being who doesn't; in this case, "veterans". I mean, it might suck a little less if this were to be implemented but it would still suck nonetheless.
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  2. #12
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    Kai Earendel
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Yeah, make housing pay-to-win (reminder: game time cards exist). That's bound to make everyone happy.
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  3. #13
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    Phoenix Down
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I don't mind the idea, but in practice it really doesn't work. It's not early access when the long term players are guaranteed to snatch up all the houses. They might as well just give houses as a veteran reward at that point because the result is the same
    Basically this. I get where OP is coming from... but in the end, it would just leave people out and that's a bit unfair. Ultimately, I think everyone deserves a fair shot at housing with us all on equal footing (and I say this as someone who has been playing since closed beta). Those people who have been around for a long time already have the advantage of being established enough to have the money. New players who wanted a house would have had to work very hard to make that gil in a shorter span of time and I think their efforts deserved to be acknowledged, too.

    Besides which, servers like Balmung are overflowing with long term subscribers and legacy players. I'm pretty sure many would still miss out even among the veterans on servers like that...
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    Last edited by Mikki; 10-13-2017 at 08:48 AM.


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  4. #14
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    Masakata Izumi
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I don't mind the idea, but in practice it really doesn't work. It's not early access when the long term players are guaranteed to snatch up all the houses. They might as well just give houses as a veteran reward at that point because the result is the same
    Well it should of course be implemented with other new features such as one house per account or server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    This would be very punishing on the older servers because not only are they very highly populated, they have an enormous amount of long time players. It also punishes newer players. Just because someone isn't a veteran doesn't mean they will appreciate housing less nor does it mean they are less deserving.
    I'm on Balmung and I think it would work out fine. And I actually am of the opinion that older players are more deserving. They've paid to keep the game going for a long time.
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  5. #15
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    Masakata Izumi
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    It would feel pretty unfair to newer players, particularly since SE markets FFXIV's housing as a flagship feature.
    It's a flagship feature that even a lot of older players can't access. And it doesn't mean no new players will get housing. Just that they should start on lower pop servers that don't have as many older player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikki View Post
    ....
    It's already leaving people out. Older players have given money to this game for a very long time. Legacy players already get special deals and with the decimation of veteran rewards the older non legacy players are getting the shaft and aren't being appreciated. This fixes that.

    I'm on Balmung and I still think this is a good idea.
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  6. #16
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    It's a flagship feature that even a lot of older players can't access.
    And a lot of people aren't happy with that. Maybe it will finally change...

    But I don't think priority by account age is the way to do it, personally.
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  7. #17
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sounds pretty hostile and daunting to new players. I'd vote no.

    Just because I've played since 1.0 in no way means I'm more deserving of any particular game feature. By all means reward "loyalty" but not by denying others things.
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  8. #18
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    I'm on Balmung and I think it would work out fine. And I actually am of the opinion that older players are more deserving. They've paid to keep the game going for a long time.
    I know some players who have been playing for far longer than me and they're not particularly attached to their houses. One of them had a warning for the demolition timer. I enter my house every day. Are you going to argue that they're more deserving of a house than I am simply because they paid more real money to SE? Even though I love and use my own house significantly more than they do?
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  9. #19
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    Amo Momo
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 70
    I think the veteran accessibility would go well with the 1 FC/1 personal per account idea. It is good in preventing low level 1-man FCs from monopolizing future housing markets. Having shell FCs owning houses with characters lower than level 50 is very suspicious.

    Not sure if mentioned, but veteran qualification should be based on play time or simply 2.0 story completion achievements, rather than setting the bar to exclude majority of the new player base.
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    Tellciel Montgomery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    I know some people will not like this but I want to throw the idea out there. Since they are getting rid of long term veteran rewards I think long term veterans should get another benefit. Early access to housing. There should be specific times when people of certain veteran rank can buy plots in the next release even if it's ONLY the next release.

    I.E.
    Legacy - 3am PST - 5am PST
    1460 days+ - 5am PST to 7am PST
    1095-1459 days - 7am PST to 9am PST
    730-1094 days - 9am PST - 11am PST
    365-729 days - 11am PST - 1pm PST
    Less than 365 days - 1pm onward

    The people who have paid to keep this game going deserve a reward now that the long term veteran rewards are gone. This is one way to go about that.

    Thank you.

    PS - I know people may really not like this idea but please be nice about it.


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