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  1. #351
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    Dragonrage53's Avatar
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    Crysta Moonshine
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    Siren
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    Rogue Lv 61
    An apartment is 500k an FC room is 400k? but apartments don't disappear when you leave your FC and they don't get demoed at least not yet. (knocks on wood)
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    Last edited by Dragonrage53; 10-13-2017 at 07:57 AM. Reason: clarification

  2. #352
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    Alexandr Nocturne
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I am in some ways encouraged, but let's all hold off cheering until we have the details. If, for example, only four more wards are added to each housing zone, we're just going to have another bloodbath. An unlikely example, but still a possibility. Just saying I'm reserving judgement.

    The number of available wards should be proportionate to the server populations. Ideally, new wards should open when current ones fill. Shirogane was widely advertized. On the official patch site it's even listed above Shinryu EX. Players should never be arbitrarily locked out of content, and I worry that simply adding a handful of new wards will only reduce the number of people locked out, not eliminate it.
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  3. #353
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    Nordvrede Himmelbrann
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    Sargatanas
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Glad to hear a response to this, and that things are being looked into. Dreading that the solution will only exacerbate the problem more, in that it will just give the RMT flippers more chance to make that profit.

    One house per account per server is fair. Make it the conscious decision of the owner to turn it into an FC house or not - you decide if you want to keep your house just yours, or if you want to make it available to all the other folks in the company as a home base. No more chances for RMT, flippers, whoreders (intentional misspelling), etc. to be greedy. I also believe that all alts on that server should have access to the house of the main character. Bam! Multiple-alt housing would not be a problem anymore. Doubling the size of apartments would also go a long way to solving the issue of folks who just want to have fun decorating differently between their alts.

    Unless the solution that is come up with enables every single player in FFXIV a chance to own their own home, it will not be enough. I know this won't be a cheap or easy fix, but it would go a long way in goodwill towards the paying customer base, and making it less likely these folks stop subscribing, if it's a fair system overall.
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    Last edited by Nordvrede; 10-13-2017 at 08:20 AM.

  4. #354
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    thank you for your response. I don't like the idea of one house for an account . I have one on one server and another on a different server and I utilize them both. I worked hard over the last couple years to get these 2 small cottages which are on two different servers. I do wish we had about 10 more item to use outside the cottages. 20 isn't enough to make a smooth transitioning yard. 25 to 30 is
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  5. #355
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    HarleyQuinn85's Avatar
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    Harleen Quinn
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80

    Not just a 4.1 housing issue

    I believe the developers need to create more housing in all locations because many players are homeless and want housing. I’ve been saving for years now and want a place for my character to live and garden and keep training my chocobo. There needs to be a rule for one house per account not just let people buy a whole ward
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  6. #356
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    Gau Bane
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    Cactuar
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    Armorer Lv 50
    I really hope this is a true fix, not a "well add 20 more houses to each area for a total of 60! Then let black Friday began again." I hope this isn't a move to stop people from canceling accounts to grab those few extra dollars. Please make a suitable fix!
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  7. #357
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    Kailani Pendragon
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 70
    Thank you for responding.

    Like someone else in this thread, I have to agree to the thought of making the personal housing account bound. Maybe allow the alts to have their own apartment and fc room, (unless that becomes an issue), but when it comes to personal housing, make it 1 per account where all alts can use it.

    P.S. If you do have alts, maybe allow 1 personal house per server, (for those who have alts on more than one).
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  8. #358
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    Kai Earendel
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amariel34 View Post
    Please DO NOT bring my family into this. I did not bring your family into this discussion so please do not bring mine into this.
    You don't pay my sub! Doesn't that entitle me to be impertinent and discourteous?

    No, it doesn't. And I apologize, because you're right, what I said is out of bounds, and detracts from my point. I struggle with the appropriate way to convey what seems like a truism to me, i.e., greed is not good.
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  9. #359
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    Amatsu Mikaboshi
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    Faerie
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I would actually like to see the ability for people that aren't lucky enough to get a house and could only grab an apartment get the ability to garden, since the only reliable way to get chocobo food is through gardening.
    Especially if you're on servers with people that aren't as active as the legacy servers, the chocobo food isn't readily available on the market board. It seems a tad lame to keep a feature locked behind "Having a house," especially if the houses are so limited.

    Also, yay. More Wards hopefully in the future.

    One day, I'll have my garden...
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  10. #360
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    Malevolent Rage
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 70
    I made a new post about this earlier, but since the feedback seems to be going here, I'll just put it here as well.

    The main argument I've seen against housing instances would be the loss of community. Instead of living, breathing communities of neighbors we'd have glorified apartments with none of camaraderie that comes with the current district system. My response was that I'm already getting no camaraderie, so I'd rather have a solo instance house than risk not getting a spot if they release too few districts once more.

    But what if we could have utilize both systems? What if we had a bidding system, where people would pay full price to purchase the size house they want in advance and then SE would know how many houses are actually needed per server. If they were interested in limiting houses per character/account, this queue system would also give them a way to check requests against accounts to keep one person from artificially inflating the numbers. Once SE have the numbers they can sort them into just as many districts as are required for that server.

    What about the buyers that want to move into neighborhoods together? Well, what if we had a pass code system in place for people that want to be neighbors can place that code with their purchase/bid and get auto sorted together? Too many using the same code would mean some would be left out, but that could also flag potential hoarders as above. People have to be friends with others that use the same code, so that a person couldn't use their alts to try and take a whole district to themselves. People that give no code or small groups would be sorted into whatever open spots remained outside neighborhood requests.

    The only limit I would put would be not being able to choose a specific lot. You choose size and hope for the best. That would require an element of rng, but at least you'd get into a spot and SE wouldnt have the headache of 200 requests for lot 30/60 and 20 for the less than prime spaces. Make anyone who wants the largest pay full price upfront with the knowledge that if rng was not on their side, the cost difference would be refunded afterwards.

    Once the bidding/purchasing was complete, SE could drop the districts down in an update and people could find their new homes by looking for their character/fc name, or receive a mogmail with their address.

    No racing for spots, no cursing server lag or reset connections. No element of luck in getting a house, only location.

    Does this seem like a feasible solution? This was a sore spot for a lot of people with 4.1 and i don't want to see a repeat of this mess at 4.2, nor do i want us to lose the sense of community the current district system provides.
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    Last edited by MalRage; 10-13-2017 at 09:11 AM.

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