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  1. #51
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Freja Reginleif
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    I see some faces in here saying being subscribed does entitle you to a house while in the thread about accessibility of super savage, the plebs just needed to git gud. There is something strangely satisfying about seeing those people. Especially since I got my guild the 30 big house in Ward one. Have a good day though!
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  2. #52
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    Nana Hya
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    OP doesnt make any sense at all...

    My sub gives me access to content.
    Did I "beat" housing ? In some ways yes : I did lots to save enough gils for a medium plot (for the big spender I am). But I am not allowed access because of an artificial scarcity of the thing.
    I am pretty sure it shouldnt be that hard to add more wards. I might cost a little in terms of server infra and bandwidth, but hey, SE has lots of money don't they ?

    Difficulty as a barrier for content is totally fine. I will probably never fight Neo Exdeath with the current gear and it is totally fine since I am the one lacking here.
    But in the case of housing, I did overcame the barrier (saving gils) : but I am refused the content because... well I am told, there's no more plots available... in a virtual instanced world ?

    Yes it is indeed a game.
    And the content should be available if you paid for it.
    I honestly don't understand YoshiP on this particular point... It's suicidal as a business...
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  3. #53
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    Apricoth's Avatar
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    Apricoth Daenya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohdo View Post
    You aren't entitled to a plot.

    Your monthly sub grants you the ability to login. Nothing more.

    If you're getting 1000-person queues on login and can never find a plot of land, maybe move to a lower pop server? If you're on one of the most populated servers in game, you should've seen this coming when Shirogane was announced.

    Housing is a limited commodity. You can play on a high-pop server or you can have an easy time finding a plot of land, but you can't have both. I agree that more wards should be added, and there should be a limit to one house per service account. While these are reasonable requests, the salt over housing has become a joke.

    Stop demanding crappy instanced housing, stop threatening to unsub (everyone knows you won't, and they don't care), and stop cursing SE/Yoshida/whoever. This is a game. If your pixel house means that much to you, take the initiative and transfer out of your high-pop server.

    Just my 2¢. Flame away.
    Kohdo - your post is full of nonsense and rhetoric. The comments you have made are made without proper knowledge of what has taken place on varying population servers. Houses were eaten up in mere minutes. People have the gil, obviously. They are paying customers. Housing should not be treated as an elite badge of any kind. It is not end game content - all should be able to access this game feature if they have the funds. People have worked hard to save those funds for housing only to be kicked in the teeth either by a high queue count, game crashing or a single person owning multiple plots amongst their main and alts and so on. So, please re-evaluate what you have said, fully informed and try again.

    Add: This situation is indefensible.
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  4. #54
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    Selene Rosewood
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    First-time poster here. I sympathize with those who wasn’t able to get a house, and I do agree that as a paying customer, you have the right to voice opinions on the issue. For me, I already purchased a small house at ul’dah long before 4.1 came out. Even though, I like the aesthetic feel of shirogane, I know transferring is futile. I hate the fact that SE only open one ward, which in my opinion, is crazy. A lot of players want a plot, why open only one
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  5. #55
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    Ryuma Shinkai
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAlice1203 View Post
    First-time poster here. I sympathize with those who wasn’t able to get a house, and I do agree that as a paying customer, you have the right to voice opinions on the issue. For me, I already purchased a small house at ul’dah long before 4.1 came out. Even though, I like the aesthetic feel of shirogane, I know transferring is futile. I hate the fact that SE only open one ward, which in my opinion, is crazy. A lot of players want a plot, why open only one ������
    I think it was 12 wars in total, which still aren't enough by far
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  6. #56
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    Starflake's Avatar
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    Freja Reginleif
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    To be honest, people are completely overreacting and being illogical. It would seem that some people would rather Shirogane have the amount of people in it as all other three cities combined. No, Shirogane exists next to Ul'dah, Gridania and Mist plots. It's not that there isn't enough room, really. It's that your prefered area doesn't have houses anymore.
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  7. #57
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    Oukanna Vantanis
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    720 houses (small, med, large) per housing area. its just not enough given how many people play this game now. Supposedly 10 million subs to this game and across all servers there are 190k total player houses. I understand they didnt want everyone to have a house...but even 20% would give a lot of people a fighting chance...although that would still be too low. 10 mins to sell out of the medium and large houses, that's all it took on one server (granted a high pop one).
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  8. #58
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    I'muka Mahsa
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    Shiva
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    People pay their Sub for access and also for the full Content of the Game. And Housing is a part of the Content, but it can not be played by everybody.
    Everything can be entered by getting better at the Game and trying your best. If a Person is not sure, if he/she plays well enough for Savage, they will try it, see their defeat and either try to get better or accept it and try it later or never. They see that they lost,
    but don't feel cheated. But here, people feel cheated, because the only way to enter Housing is luck or getting an insane amount of Money, to buy one of those small Houses for 30 Millions Gil or a Mansion for 250 Million Gil.
    Imagine just 2500 people per week would be alowed to start Savage per Server, people would freak out and feel left behind. Housing is a Content, all people pay for, but only a small Part can use it. All the Costs created by Housing are paid with out Subs and only around 2500 people (mostly less) have real access to this Content.

    People are mad, because after all this Years, Yoshida and his Team learned nothing. They act like everything is fine and again we experienced this madness of Housing. Nothing was changed to make it better, nothing was done to bring fainress into this.
    They did nothing, they learned nothing and everything is again the same madness. This is the thing that drives me mad with this Game. Even if things turn into a huge mess, they just repeat it and hope, it will turn out better the next time.

    Or to make it short: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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    Last edited by Imuka; 10-11-2017 at 12:31 AM.

  9. #59
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    Kodoyaki Takoyaki
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    Sephirot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    ...even if everyone transferred off, there still wouldn't be enough housing...60 plots per ward, 12 wards per district, 4 districts per server, 66 servers -> 190k houses total. The last unofficial census had 400k characters at 70 total, over 600k eligible for housing and then you also have to account for FCs as well.
    FFXIV was averaging 9000 new players per day when HW launched (http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/1...ptionbased-mmo) Should SE add 9000 more plots per day, just to make sure everyone has a chance to get one?

    You're working on the assumption that there's meant to be enough housing for literally every player to have a house waiting for them as soon as they have the gil. Housing is deliberately scarce because it's intended to be a rare commodity.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apricoth View Post
    Housing...is not end game content - all should be able to access this game feature if they have the funds.
    You have access to the same housing market as everyone else. If you have the gil, and you're searching for a house in the same market, you have access to all the same game features as anyone else searching for a house. If they happen to get to it first, and you miss out, too bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apricoth View Post
    Housing should not be treated as an elite badge of any kind.
    Why?
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