Can we as paying customers agree the lack of Housing is simply unacceptable to SE?

[Reverend]

Housing is like in the real world, first come , first serve. SE has taken steps to help the problem. The real issue is that do to Gill Sellers they monopolize many wards. SE can't really do anything unless they have solid proof of violation. So for now call in days off, call in sick, use vacation time, camp areas out. That's how most of us got them anyways. That and default from Non FC leaders showing up.

Nah because in the real world, there are dozens of houses for sale everyday. In the real world it's more a matter of having the money. There is no shortage of houses in the real world, there may be a shortage of houses in your price range at that time, but that can change on a daily basis. FYI: just bought a house IRL early this year, there were no shortage of houses available, but what we qualified for did limit our choices.

[Mitttens]

Lots of people unsubbing because of the housing shortage. So sad.

[Clint_Beastwood]

Not to mention, we don't play a game to simulate real-world bullshit. Stupid argument.

[Reverend]

Hey SE,

Time to do your research: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVhousingmarket/
RMT Housing and scalping... get your ass to work... lol

[Tridus]

Housing is like in the real world, first come , first serve. SE has taken steps to help the problem. The real issue is that do to Gill Sellers they monopolize many wards. SE can't really do anything unless they have solid proof of violation. So for now call in days off, call in sick, use vacation time, camp areas out. That's how most of us got them anyways. That and default from Non FC leaders showing up.

In the real world, when there's more demand for housing, developers come in and build more housing. That increases supply. That's basic economics.

Besides, this isn't the real world. SE has the technical ability to scale up the ward count. They also have the technical ability to limit houses to one per server per account, which would force scalpers or sellers to run multiple subscriptions to hold houses and dramatically drive up the cost of doing so.

They choose to do neither of these things because reasons.

[Anyaira]

A victim of the current housing system here, I couldn't get a single house in Shirogane when I could finally log in after fighting with the stupid client and getting a 1k waiting list... I managed to snatch a cottage plot two years ago, but I wanted to upgrade to a house... guess I won't be seeing one for the foreseeable future... I guess it all depends on luck, and SE won't move an inch to fix this if they haven't in the past 4 years.

Anyway, I wanted to make their life easier and summed up what I've seen around this thread regarding the housing system and what issues it has (not like SE doesn't know, but w/e, I'm bored enough):

- Housing must be limited to ONE house per account for both personal and Free Company (1 personal house and 1 Free Company house in every account, even with more than 1 character on different worlds).
- Housing must be separate between Free Companies and individual players.
- A system so that players are not able to sell houses must be implemented (since they could get another account and purchase the house with it, even with the above limitations).
- A system so that house purchasing does not deppend on luck, good internet connection, proximity to the servers, and timezones must be implemented.
- Free Companies should only be eligible to purchase a house if they have enough active members, a member should counted per account in that subserver (if 2 characters of the same account are in the same FC, they are counted as 1; on different servers, they are counted as 1 on each; No idea how an account with characters in different FCs should be handled).
* Cottages should require at least 10 FC members (indicative numbers)
* Houses should require at least 25 FC members
* Mansions should require at least 50 FC members
- Some kind of system to avoid unused housing should be implemented, such as players owning a house but almost never using it, this should come in the form of a weekly fee of sorts, keeping some kind of reputation gouge that depletes daily at a certain point, or interacting with the house every so often. As for FCs, only those that keep their active members up will be able to keep the housing, if it drops below the required number for a certain amount of time, the house should be revoked.
- The housing system must be overhauled so that every player is able to purchase a house if they are able to pay for it, but still respecting the above rules.
- Some kind of requirement to purchase housing should be implemented, such as reaching a certain amount of reputation with the city estate in which the housing area is in, additionally, only players above a certain level should be able to access this content for different housing sizes:
* Cottages should require a small amount of reputation (for levels 30 and above) [these values are indicative]
* Houses should require a moderate amount of reputation (for levels 50 and above)
* Mansions should require the maximum amount of reputation (for levels 70 and above)

Feel free to recomend more of these limitations, I'll add them up.

[Clint_Beastwood]

Unsubbing until this shit is fixed. I'll pay month to month, but SE loves its subscription numbers, so if that's the only place I can hurt them, I'll do that.

[Probably_Nice]

Housing is like in the real world, first come , first serve.

Except that it's not. In the real world, people bid against one another and the price is based upon scarcity and demand. I'm not arguing that it should/shouldn't be that way here, just pointing out the flaw in your argument.

[Kyoji5]

Housing should be available to ALL players subscribing to this game. Period.

[DravlinKuraiyoru]

Housing should be available to ALL players subscribing to this game. Period.

I agree. If there needs to be some kind of special snowflake area where you have to win a virtual lottery or bust up a Super Expert Ultimate Baddy 11.0, so be it, but don't exclude 80% of the sub base from certain content for years with no way to overcome it.