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  1. #111
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    Yo, gbe931, I agree with you the housing situation sucks, but can you stop complaining about them adding other things? You may not care about them, but other people do. The housing situation being crappy doesn't mean that they should immediately stop work on everything else.
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  3. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Yo, gbe931, I agree with you the housing situation sucks, but can you stop complaining about them adding other things? You may not care about them, but other people do. The housing situation being crappy doesn't mean that they should immediately stop work on everything else.
    So you believe that Jump Potions for Retainers, dyeable gear and Chinese Cash Shop items are more worthy of dev time/money rather than additional housing wards or fixing a broken housing system they have had over 3 years to give an answer on? If they were responsible, they would prioritize Housing over a Perform emote that no one asked for. By judging their collective silence and ignoring the overall issue of housing, they allowed a situation to occur in which 2 people were able to buy an entire ward and it garnered not even a thought from SE at all.

    But I should just stop complaining as look at all these shiny new "Optional Items" I'm getting in the Cash Shop...
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    Last edited by gbe931; 10-10-2017 at 04:08 AM.

  4. #113
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    Acilith's Avatar
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    Alexandre Hanrieaux
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    JP might have asked for it and they have about ...well, a few thousand players on us. So they are appealing to their largest audience. Nothing wrong with that.
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  5. #114
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Adding more wards will not really help the situation... the same type of players will buy them up on alts and flip them for 10x the amount... as for instanced housing I hate the idea... I enjoy my yard... I enjoy my housing locations... I enjoy looking at other people's houses and yards... what they should do is make a free mogstation item you need to own a house that restricts an account to 1 personal house, one fc house.. you can choose which character on an account gets the item... accounts with multiple houses are given a month to demolish all but the allowed amount of houses so they can choose which to keep.. if they don't choose it defaults to the first properties bought on the account
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  6. #115
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    Mari Sakamoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Adding more wards will not really help the situation... what they should do is make a free mogstation item you need to own a house that restricts an account to 1 personal house, one fc house.. you can choose which character on an account gets the item... accounts with multiple houses are given a month to demolish all but the allowed amount of houses so they can choose which to keep.. if they don't choose it defaults to the first properties bought on the account
    The problem is that the moment they implement this, people who own multiple housings might automatically get their plots removed without getting the chance to choose which plot they want to keep. So that's no good on that side either.

    However, more wards will give slightly better leeway for people to get an opportunity to purchase something at least. Not the best , but something.
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  7. #116
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    Stragus Eddea'sheir
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    Why is Square Enix so stingy and doesn't add new wards? People from distant places and other countries will have bigger problems trying to log in and quee for 4.1. In the end, SE will reward those who live beside datacenter, and punish who doesn't. I live in South America, and I'm gonna try to buy a house in shirogane, if Yoshida allow me.
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  8. #117
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    Keep the "neighborhood" wards for FCs only, put membership purchasing limits on bigger FC housing (50+ members to buy a medium, 100+ for large, maybe some kind of small 10+ or 20+ limit on small houses to diminish the amount of individual players buying them).

    Allow players to buy an instanced house with a yard that you can invite people to come visit. Exact same as a small house but instanced instead of in a 30-plot ward.

    One individual house per account, shared between characters.

    Automatically add an additional ward when X amount of plots or less are left in the highest ward. Put housing on a separate server if necessary.

    There. Housing is fixed.
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  9. #118
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    ColorOfSakura's Avatar
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    I still stand by the fact that allowing people to purchase personal houses in the same areas that Free Company housing exists was the thing that truly ruined housing in this game. Yes - housing would still be a fairly rare commodity in the game if it was limited to FCs in the major housing areas, but the problem would not nearly be as bad as it became once they allowed private land ownership in the same areas.

    Honestly, private houses should have either had their own housing areas or they should have been made instanced with the ability to invite people to them.

    That said - I do think the ability for people to purchase more than one house on the same account should be implemented (One FC house - if they're an FC leader, and one personal house) as well.

    What bothers me is how absolutely silent the dev team continues to be on this despite knowing that housing is a MASSIVE issue in the game. I don't understand the silence - their playerbase is super not happy about this situation and they just keep asking patience for them to add more wards but the game keeps growing and they don't do enough to solve the housing shortage on the larger servers. I'm kinda tired of excuses and "Well small servers still have houses left" - well that's literally not good enough for 90% of the game's playerbase because most of us cannot or will not move servers because it means leaving behind a ton of friends or convincing those people to pay for transfers as well. That isn't a fair system whatsoever. It punishes people for being on higher population servers - which is absolutely not the thing to do.

    My friends and I moved to a smaller preferred server when they opened up the free transfers because we wanted to help alleviate the problem on Balmung - we still ended up leaving some friends behind who didn't want to transfer off. And even with all that - the housing on the new server was completely sold out by the time we arrived, and now we're going to have to try and fight against hundreds if not thousands of other players to attempt to get a house in Shirogane. It's mind boggling how terrible this system is and continues to be and the game is four years old now. They've overhauled so many major systems but they haven't overhauled the one that is actively a major problem and levies one of the greatest amounts of complaints?

    Back in 2.1 and stuff I wouldn't have cared, but the second they added Company Crafting Workshops and Airship Ventures and made them ONLY available to companies with houses? That's the moment I had a problem - because now you have crafting content that makes companies money and a TON of Free Companies can't even access it due to the terrible housing system. They need to work on fixing this - this needs to be the next major overhaul.

    And more than anything -

    They need to address this with the playerbase because this silence is unacceptable
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    Last edited by ColorOfSakura; 10-10-2017 at 09:27 AM.

  10. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbe931 View Post
    But I should just stop complaining as look at all these shiny new "Optional Items" I'm getting in the Cash Shop...
    I'm not saying to stop complaining about the lack of housing lol. I'm obviously on your side, housing needs to be addressed but people have different priorities than you first of all, and making the game come to a screeching halt until they "fix housing" isn't going to help at all. The constant complaining about oh no, perform, oh no, jump potions for retainers (something people have asked for), and oh no, glamours (another thing people have asked for) just kind of makes you look bad. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    The problem is that the moment they implement this, people who own multiple housings might automatically get their plots removed without getting the chance to choose which plot they want to keep. So that's no good on that side either.

    However, more wards will give slightly better leeway for people to get an opportunity to purchase something at least. Not the best , but something.
    They should implement this but let people choose what plot they want to keep. Once a good enough amount of time has passed allowing people to choose, then they just relinquish the others to everyone else.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  11. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I'm not saying to stop complaining about the lack of housing lol. I'm obviously on your side, housing needs to be addressed but people have different priorities than you first of all, and making the game come to a screeching halt until they "fix housing" isn't going to help at all.
    Personally I would wager to you that the majority of the player base cares more about the availability of housing than they do the Perform Emote. I wager they want Housing over Retainer Jump Potions and Housing is the penulntimate glamour, so giving them a dress that is female character only rather than Housing that is universal has more value.
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