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  1. #31
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guiballad View Post
    People want houses to be able to do whatever they want with it. People like to decorate, it's actually a big part of why housing is so coveted.
    Also the reason people don't care that much about apartments is because they're so DAMN small and a lot of people would probably rather buy a private room in their FC's house. The issue could be aleviated with a revamp for apartments like you proposed, but ultimately a lot of people would still want an exterior area to decorate because, again, decorating is a big, if not the biggest, thing about housing for most people
    *Sighs.*

    If the whole issue is being able to have a lawn, I can't say that's worth the trouble of the server load. If players want instanced housing, no one's going to see your lawn, anyway, but you. For all we know, having to load a potential maximum of 720 lawn items is the whole reason why warded housing has been so time consuming to implement.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 10-08-2017 at 03:35 PM. Reason: I said the wrong word D:
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  2. #32
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    Mikki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I really do wish people would stop saying they don't want instanced housing because it would be lonely. The wards are already empty.
    But I often see other people in my ward.... I always see this couple sitting outside their home near mine. And my friend and I always craft out front by the market board. I see people in the house next to mine come and go and stop by the market board and I see several people from up the hill who come down to the market board frequently. I've made some friends this way ~ And when I'm bored, I like to go around the ward map and pop into people's homes if it's open. Sometimes I spot them inside and say hello. Or, if my friend is with me and they're downstairs / upstairs, he likes to send Eos up to them (by herself) to surprise them. haha. Got some good laughs that way.

    Maybe a lot of wards are dead and I'm just a special case. Or perhaps everyone just says this because they only spend 2 minutes outside their house before going inside or leaving...? If you're there as often as me, you tend to see other people. Granted, it isn't booming like if you go to Kugane near the market board or something. But I'm on one of the lowest population servers and see plenty of people.... And I don't think it needs to be BOOMING. In real life, a neighborhood isn't like a block party 24/7 after all. Personally I think it's nice.

    That being said, I think a mixture of wards + instanced housing would be best. The earlier suggestion from anzamoni was great.
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    Last edited by Mikki; 10-08-2017 at 03:31 PM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    For me, I want the yard space and given the surge in cherry trees after they went on the cash shop, I don't think anyone's going to be too keen on giving up the use of lawn decor they paid real money for. The yard space is a big part of what some people want from housing. Heck, people have even lost their houses they hang out at quite a bit, simply because they only ever made use of the yard space.
    This just tells me that there are people that don't even want houses, just a patch of green they can decorate. Would that not mean we're completely asking for the wrong thing? We're also going off of the assumption that instanced housing would be share-able and/or have a lawn to begin with that you can customize. I'm just saying, if it came down to it, which is more important, more houses or having a lawn? It would not surprise me if this was an actual concern devs face.
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    Last edited by JunseiKei; 10-08-2017 at 05:49 PM.
    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    For people arguing for instanced housing, I have one point I would like for you to consider:

    The solitude of instanced Garrisons in WoW (and only the solitary aspect of them). Think of every pro and con you can with that one.
    I already am isolated. In the year an a half I've had my house I have seen one other player in the ward. I have never seen another player when visiting other wards or housing areas. I saw more housing activity with instanced housing in Wildstar than I've ever seen here. There was always someone holding an open house or having a party with an ongoing active chat channel. Heck even Rift tended to have more activity related to housing than I've seen here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    For me, I want the yard space and given the surge in cherry trees after they went on the cash shop, I don't think anyone's going to be too keen on giving up the use of lawn decor they paid real money for. The yard space is a big part of what some people want from housing. Heck, people have even lost their houses they hang out at quite a bit, simply because they only ever made use of the yard space.
    Which is why I say any move to instanced housing needs to include the exterior area in the instance. It could also allow us to get past the exterior item limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    *Sighs.*

    If the whole issue is being able to have a lawn, I can't say that's worth the trouble of the server load. If players want instanced housing, no one's going to see your lawn, anyway, but you. For all we know, having to load a potential maximum of 720 lawn items is the whole reason why warded housing has been so time consuming to implement.
    Sure they could. Other games with housing have the ability to hold open houses or let people into your instance. In fact some have a pretty active housing scene as birds of a feather flock together.
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    Last edited by Claviusnex; 10-08-2017 at 09:57 PM.

  5. #35
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    I'd take instances over more wards (would gladly give up my personal hoise for this), but at this point I'll take whatever, really. Perhaps more slots for garden furniture as well?
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  6. #36
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    Mari Sakamoto
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    /Signed.

    More wards, or instanced housing. Anything is good. Or make new wards start with all small housings and new housing systems - make all houses upgrade-able into medium to large in the future.

    People who dont want to upgrade, then that's their choice.
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  7. #37
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    Angarato Svartberg
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    signed but only more wards. instanced housing is lame. make another subdivision if you need too, or make it look different entirely. cities grow irl too when population grows. the rest of the world evolves too (like mordhona and idlleshire)
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  8. #38
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    More wards, yes.

    Instanced housing, GOD NO. That's a terrible, awful, dreadful idea.
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  9. #39
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    Whoever came up with the idea of giving up all of our personal houses for FC only wards and giving us apartments in return, that's awful. I LOVE my houses. I put in alot of time and effort checking houses being up for sale over and over again for me to get them together with my wife. Just because people who are less dedicated to getting a house as I am doesn't mean they are entitled to one.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikki View Post
    Maybe a lot of wards are dead and I'm just a special case. Or perhaps everyone just says this because they only spend 2 minutes outside their house before going inside or leaving...? If you're there as often as me, you tend to see other people.
    I spend pretty much all my time in game crafting out in front of my house. I've seen like 3 people.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

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