Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Tridus]

Had a downright weird levelling roulette today. I was on SCH, got Sastasha... so I planned to just let Eos handle it and DPS.

Our tank was a sprout level 30 Gladiator (not PLD), who never spoke, never used flash, and just focused on one mob at a time. It happens at that level, no big deal, Eos can still handle it no matter who winds up having stuff hit them. It got weird with the DPS, though...

They tried to explain to the tank to use Flash. Multiple times. Then they got frustrated. Then they just dropped. No attempt a vote kick (which with both of them pissed off, would have succeeded), no nothing. Just 'I'm out' and drop. It's not like we were having any trouble clearing the or even going slower than a usual group, so I found it a really strange overreaction that they'd both just give up after waiting in the queue. Replacements came in and we didn't miss a beat.

We chugged along taking turns tanking between the ARC, SAM, and myself, and everything went just fine (only had to cast Physick twice, Eos did the rest). But I've never seen two DPS just decide to drop like that in a group that wasn't having any difficulty clearing the dungeon. Very, very odd.

[Lilseph]

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Weird stuff. Yeah.

When I run with friends, all these dungeons up to Totorak have the rule of "everyone is a tank", because the mobs barely do any damage and you can have them split between the DPS, healer and tank no problem. Point is, I don't know why they were getting frustrated as it's completely doable even if the tank doesn't have a clue of their role. Did you check if they were from the same server afterwards through the contact list? o-O

[Tridus]

Weird stuff. Yeah.

When I run with friends, all these dungeons up to Totorak have the rule of "everyone is a tank", because the mobs barely do any damage and you can have them split between the DPS, healer and tank no problem. Point is, I don't know why they were getting frustrated as it's completely doable even if the tank doesn't have a clue of their role. Did you check if they were from the same server afterwards through the contact list? o-O

Didn't think of it, unfortunately.

The highest level dungeon I've done that effectively had anyone tanking was Qarn, where it was split between a SAM and my AST. The early ones are definitely fine, as you said. That's why I find the DPS reaction so weird.

[Ilenya]

In general, if you main a job, that's what you're taking to 70 first. (Why would you call it your main if that's not what you take to 70 first?

To be fair, I'm a SCH main, but I leveled WAR first since I was expecting to run through the story with my WHM-main friend so there are exceptions.

[Heliantheae]

Levelling DRG in Bardam's. I hit 66 halfway and learned Dragon Sight. Remember DRGs used it on me when I was tanking, so I used it on the tank. During the second boss I reads the tooltip and was thinking to myself if it increased the other DPS by 5% why did they give it to me as a tank? So I gave it to the RDM and immediately figured out why they give it to the tank. The RDM high tailed it away from me. Tried it again, once again she booked it away from me.

[Kahnom]

Levelling DRG in Bardam's. I hit 66 halfway and learned Dragon Sight. Remember DRGs used it on me when I was tanking, so I used it on the tank. During the second boss I reads the tooltip and was thinking to myself if it increased the other DPS by 5% why did they give it to me as a tank? So I gave it to the RDM and immediately figured out why they give it to the tank. The RDM high tailed it away from me. Tried it again, once again she booked it away from me.

Sometimes I give dragon sight to healer that know how to dps But only if other dps did crap damage and not AOE.
But give it to the tank that knows how to stance dancing seems to be most effective somehow.

[Ametrine]

Loaded into leveling roulette on my WHM, and landed in Haukke Manor (which I get way too often...). The Tank is a PLD is watching the cutscene, but I notice he's in level 50 gear and has his ARR Relic, which is unusual. Party is me at 63, this sprout PLD, a 70 RDM in his job gear, and a non-sprout Bard.

Opening drops, PLD goes into Sheild Oath, I buff and we're off..... To have this PLD face pull the first group and eat the Handmaiden's AOE. He's using buffs and in tank stance, so I have no issues keeping him up, but the guy's playing like he's never seen Haukke Manor before. He forgets to Flash on occasion, and we have to back track for keys. He never stuns the maidens (I tell him how) and he usually just eats it.

We get to the second boss, and PLD tries to focus the skeleton. We DPS the Jester too quickly for it to be an issue, and it goes decently otherwise. Afterwards BRD and RDM Return like normal, and I see the PLD start to run confused to the room door. At this point I KNOW he doesn't know Haukke at all, so I tell him, "Use Return" in chat as I do so.

All of this Tank's behavior looks like he's never done Haukke at all, but his gear was sending a different message. The run had been going slowly, so I think the BRD and RDM we're holding back.

RDM suddenly asks, "Did you guys come together?"
"Nope, I came roulette."
"I'm just having a hard time think this guy earned a relic."

Hoo boy. I just took on the stance that I was healing a newbie.

As I start typing, PLD responds, "Well, I really don't care what you think."

While I say, "Ehh, I just thought maybe he's returned from a break, really out of practice, or something, who knows!"

RDM just says, ":/"

We're up to the Ahriman in front of the boss room so I just say, "Now guys we're right at the end so let's finish this."

Final boss goes just fine. RDM tells the tank he did well (which he did!). Tank thanks everyone and I walk out with a couple comms.

I guess I diffused it.

[Ilyrian]

Weird stuff. Yeah.

When I run with friends, all these dungeons up to Totorak have the rule of "everyone is a tank", because the mobs barely do any damage and you can have them split between the DPS, healer and tank no problem. Point is, I don't know why they were getting frustrated as it's completely doable even if the tank doesn't have a clue of their role. Did you check if they were from the same server afterwards through the contact list? o-O

You're right that this works but when the tank gets to Toto-arak and still doesn't have a clue what they're doing it becomes an issue. When are they expected to learn? 'Cause by and large a huge amount fail when faced by actual hard-hitting pulls in Brayflox.

[Mysterysword]

Levelling DRG in Bardam's. I hit 66 halfway and learned Dragon Sight. Remember DRGs used it on me when I was tanking, so I used it on the tank. During the second boss I reads the tooltip and was thinking to myself if it increased the other DPS by 5% why did they give it to me as a tank?

I usually run Expert Roulette as BLM. I can recall the one and only time I was paired with a DRG in there who gave me Dragon Sight. You bet your ass I stuck to that DRG like toilet paper unless mechanics forced me to move.

In other news, I had a healer use LB2 at Zenos the other day, supposedly because the DPS were dead and they "needed the ress". Once again, I must ask myself how somebody gets to 70 without even knowing the basics of what LB does at what level.

[Reckion]

I had an interesting moment yesterday in Emanation Extreme.

Myself and a friend of mine joined a pratice run for Emanation Extreme. Everyone was being polite and learning the primal fight, as usually it goes ... but at the third try, during the countdown, the samurai in the group had a err.... "Leroy Jenkins" moment, and pulled the two adds and then jumped off the platform...

I have no idea if that was intentional, or just a harware malfunction or sticky key situation. At the beggining I thought (and still think, tbf) he was trolling/griefing. He did write in chat he was sorry a bunch of times and that he was embarassed for that. He got a ressurection, and the fight procceded as normal and we killed the primal.

That moment, however, was so strange. I could give him the benefit of the doubt, but having a SAM at max lvl myself, I don't see how the job could give you sticky key problem. But we all laughed at that and we still got the kill, so meh. Whatever.