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  1. #201
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I would like some sort of loyalty reward in place.. but maybe just some more golden chocobo feathers for keeping subscriptions concurrent?
    the new loyalty rewards will be from "3 months subbed" campaigns like the falcon campaign
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    Last edited by Felis; 10-07-2017 at 08:00 PM.

  2. #202
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    I don't feel insulted. I feel its absolutely fine, I get Squall next week anyway (when I would have resubbed) so I'd have had them all.
    What does bother me is the shoddiness that is the Falcon Campaign. I've only gone and missed it rofl.
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  3. #203
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly View Post
    You know what's funny? The people complaining about "my glamz is going to be used by every nweb in the game now!1!!1!" are the same ones that complained about how much time it would take to get the Atrope mount with mentor roulette if you did it on a casual 1 roulette a day.

    "But 3 years just to get a mount is too much", they said.
    "SE shouldn't lock those items under that much time", they said.
    "I honestly don't even care about that mount anymore, I don't know if I'll even be playing this game for those 3 more years", they said.

    Perspective, my friends. It's all perspective.
    I hate comments like this that assume a community is a hivemind. Got quotes to back this statement? I'm talking specific users who are both angry about this for your specified reason and users angry about Astrope, again, for your specified reason.
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  4. #204
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    Colino's Avatar
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    Colino Nyea
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    Omega
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    I'm a little baffled to see the amount of people that have been playing since 2015 calling themselves "veterans" and being unhappy that someone will get a Squall jacket earlier than they would have, especially considering I almost never see anyone even using the veteran reward glamours for the most part.

    I've been playing since 1.0 and for what it's worth I think these changes are fine, the latter tiers were a bit of a joke to be honest (compared to what you got early on anyway). The real veteran reward will always be the legacy tattoo, chocobo and permanent sub discount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    the new loyalty rewards will be from "3 months subbed" campaigns like the falcon campaign
    I think you're right, it makes more sense for them since they're more likely to catch returning players this way as well as newcomers subbing more than they would have for the reward.
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  5. #205
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    Raqrie_Tohka's Avatar
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    Sokhatai Tohka
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    Odin
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    As someone who wasn't around for 1.0, nor consistently subbed that long for all the veteran rewards which take years, I had pretty much given up on them. Being offered them now in a reachable goal is nice. But I can also understand how true veteran players, including the marked ones from 1.0, might feel. I feel SE should have given some sort of reverse compensation, such as gold chocobo feathers, mogstation credit, fantasia, or other non-unique items back into the veteran reward system for the long-tier rewards while switching out the prior rewards.
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  6. #206
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Well when I started the game they already had things that needed 720 days to get, yet I never thought about it in a bad way. I was happy which each reward that I got and I was looking forward to getting specific rewards too. So I saw it simply as a long time goal which I could reach somewhere in the future. It was not limited and everyone had the same chance to get it. Yes I also agree that the last few ones are way too much and thus a cut was necessary.
    That may have been your outlook, however I know plenty who simply forgot the rewards even existed or resigned themselves to the fact they'll never have them. That defeats the entire purpose behind a system primarily intended to incentivize continual subscriptions. The Centurio Tiger and Hellhound mounts weren't meant to keep people subbed, but to reward players who participated in the respectively content they are rewarded from. Now I have my misgivings towards the sheer time investment required, especially with the devs refusal to scale ARR and HW mounts. That doesn't change it isn't meant to incentivize. Keep in mind, until its release hunts offered nothing except achievements and catch up tokens. And therein lies the issue. Some people viewed Veteran Rewards as a "thank you" for their subscription. While that may have been their nice PR spin, Square Enix thought differently. Hence why they used popular mainline Final Fantasy characters.

    How isn't acquiring points fair? In lieu of getting rewarded for essentially doing nothing, you're rewarded for actively participating in content. My hope is Yoshida makes good on his excitement to add more interesting achievements like speed killing dungeons or beating V3S without caster LB. If you've played longer, you'll have more achievement points, thus your time played remains valued. Say they release Tifa's outfit at 10,000 achievement points. Long term players can get it immediately while newer players have an obtainable goal they can influence by simply playing the game itself. I much prefer a system like that over "wait 2-4 years."
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  7. #207
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    The_NPC's Avatar
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    Ritza Solair
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    Machinist Lv 79
    Personally don't care as I never saw the "veteran rewards" as anything but a bonus... that said I wonder what will be in this new shop that uses achievment points (or what it may hold in future patches/xpac's). Becides I find this game fun, even if I'm usually only on for weeklies lately, if I didn't I would have unsubbed simple as that as I am also playing 3-4 diff games when not on FF14 (along with whatever reality likes to throw at me).

    Really do think they need to add size ajusting to the Falcon mount but then they give Slipner flight soooo... F u Falcon u metal bullet vibrater looking thingy & boyah hello to super horse!... which was also my go to ground mount before anyway lol
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    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

  8. #208
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    Emerald_Swords's Avatar
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    Jay Ichijou
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    Coeurl
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    It's fine, I have no issue with the rework.

    I know for me, it was so daunting when I first started playing. As you keep playing though, you kinda forget about them lol.
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  9. #209
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    Iroira Sinzha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
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    First of all I'd like to apologize for my generalization and if that offended, upset or got to you in any kind of way. Admitedly I was a little heated when I made my posts, but the reason is that it seems like the forums keep getting worse and worse when it comes to how to handle feedback. I have the impression that everytime I come here there's a huge amount of threads with people complaining about stuff on such a hateful and entitled maner that it's dificult for me not to facepalm. A quick look at the two threads created about the new veteran system and the one created about Astrope (and many others) points out the negative atmosphere in which people are handling insatisfaction. And by people I don't mean every single user of this forum, just... people. It honestly feels like very rarely there's a positive feedback thread here compared to other groups of discussion, and outside of the usual "Show your character" threads what I see the most is the passive aggressive "change this or I'll unsub/SE doesn't care about it's players". However I don't want the main subject of this thread to be washed away by this conversation and I'll just excuse myself with an apology for potentialy had ofended you, or any others.
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  10. #210
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'm actually fine with this rework. In all honesty, it takes way too long for some of these rewards so its not even a problem that others are able to get them faster.

    My only wish is that future campaigns like the Falcon one are planned out a little better down the line.
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