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    The reason why PVP gives XP and any such rewards useful (to a degree) in PVE

    It's to encourage people who normally aren't into PVP for its own sake to pvp. reduce queue times.

    I know myself and most of my friends would never touch pvp if they couldn't use it to help them improve their character in some way for PVE.

    Sure some people would pvp for it's own sake, but by removing pve rewards from pvp you're drastically reducing the number of people who care, and SE wants more people to do more of their content.
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    woah, i had no idea! :O

    thanks!
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    Well, this is a weight off my mind.
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    Consider my mind blown!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster_E View Post
    Well, this is a weight off my mind.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    woah, i had no idea! :O

    thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    Consider my mind blown!
    sarcastic or not, a lot of people have been asking for the removal of said rewards, with out fully understanding the context behind them.

    they tired of pvp "bots" and afk'ers.

    i play fps pvp games like overwatch, which the only reward is cosmetic items from loot boxes. yet see the same issues. bots/afk'ers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    i play fps pvp games like overwatch, which the only reward is cosmetic items from loot boxes. yet see the same issues. bots/afk'ers.
    Well, I've been playing MOBAs for a while and didn't see those issues.

    The issues there revolved around:"This game sucks, surrender @20" because people lost their lane, sometimes coupled with standing at the start flinging insults at the jungler >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    sarcastic or not, a lot of people have been asking for the removal of said rewards, with out fully understanding the context behind them.

    they tired of pvp "bots" and afk'ers.

    i play fps pvp games like overwatch, which the only reward is cosmetic items from loot boxes. yet see the same issues. bots/afk'ers.
    And also people behaving poorly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    sarcastic or not, a lot of people have been asking for the removal of said rewards, with out fully understanding the context behind them.

    they tired of pvp "bots" and afk'ers.

    i play fps pvp games like overwatch, which the only reward is cosmetic items from loot boxes. yet see the same issues. bots/afk'ers.
    They do know the context behind them...they're willing to trade their queue times for enjoyment, who wouldn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Well, I've been playing MOBAs for a while and didn't see those issues.

    The issues there revolved around:"This game sucks, surrender @20" because people lost their lane, sometimes coupled with standing at the start flinging insults at the jungler >_>
    That's pretty much what happens in Frontlines when any other team reaches 1000 points and your team doesn't.
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    Eh, offering xp in PVP is incentive for those who wouldn't try it normally to try it however when said incentive allows players to AFK and still gain credit it means the incentive isn't working as intended.

    What good is reducing queue times if those who want competition end up with players who will just afk for the free xp? If anything it just makes those who originally would want to do PVP for PVP not do it because they don't want to queue in with PVE doing PVP just for afk xp meaning that the system which encouraged PVE to try PVP is now discouraging those who want to do PVP from doing PVP.

    The results end up being the opposite of what they had intended, now you just have those who wanted to do PVP not do it anymore because they get tired of the PVE's that queue just for xp.
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