This one is partially a vent, and partially a request for suggestions. The other week, I went into Bardam’s Mettle as an AST. Did my greetings, because I like to at least be a little social. Soon as I cast Protect, the PLD does the normal mass pulls that I expect here for the first three mobs. I’m in Noct and have no time for DPS. My rotation looks like this, drop Earthly Star, Benefic II, recast shielded Aspected Benefic, Benefic II, Aspected Benefic again, ignite Earthly Star for crit heals, and so on and so on…
Now, when the shield on the tank drops, his HP sinks like a freakin rock. I usually have to weave in an ED when it’s available because what I’m doing isn’t keeping him alive. DPS, a DRG and RDM, are doing single target damage…so that doesn’t help me at all. This is still the first mass pull when all of a sudden, the tank eats a couple of crits and dies on the spot. Of course, I’m next on aggro list and die before my GCD even resets.
Now…as a player, I’m extremely critical of my own performance. If a tank dies, I tend to analyze where I screwed up at. As you may have seen from other stories I’ve shared. Now, the tank only used shield oath to grab and get hate, and then once he had them, he went into Sword Oath. Yes…the tank probably shouldn’t have dropped shield in that particular pull….or maybe he should’ve…I dunno…I quit tanking a while ago when I realized I didn’t know what I was talking about.
I didn’t even get a chance to go with them again. I apologized, said that maybe I’m not popping my heals fast enough, and told the party I wasn’t used to pulling out lightspeed + lagesse on the opening pull. I said it was my fault, and it will not happen again. Didn’t matter…I got vote-kicked in the middle of casting protect.
I know there are healers here who have experienced something similar, so…what did I do wrong? The only time I’ve been vote-kicked was way back in April when I first subscribed, and that was because I didn’t understand what the party meant by turn off the lamps. So yeah…being vote-kicked for the second time in less than a year has me concerned that I’m one of those toxic players that the community has been complaining about. Any suggestions would be great – I do want to be a great healer.
Speaking as a tank, that tank was an idiot. That pull hits hard enough in tank stance, let alone dropping into DPS stance in heavy AoE, as a paladin no less. Yes, Total Eclipse is nice, no, it's not worth turning off your 20% damage reduction, especially on a pull that nasty.
So I'm leveling AST (for the second time) on my alt with my sweetheart whom is leveling WAR.
We're both level sixty-nine and decide to do Castrum Abania.
I just woke up from a nap, and am grumpy face, so I don't say anything at the start of the dungeon like I usually would, but everyone else only says their hellos so I don't feel too bad. The run goes fine. We're a little on the lower side for gear, but both of us are experienced, I've healed this dungeon a ton, and run it as tanks and dps even more. Its a rough dungeon IMO, but I'm not worried, I know what I'm doing. I love the SB leveling dungeons.
Our DPS are a NIN and a RDM, and the dps isn't the highest, but they're doing really good, and I find plenty of time to dps between managing my MP and healing.
I heal. I dps.The run is going smoothly, me and tank are in the same room, and I warn if I'm having trouble and vice versa so neither of us is caught off guard.
Here comes the second boss.
I notice the RDM doesn't go for the third tower. I take one, tank is in one and the last one is free. I don't expect the NIN to get it. The RDM is RIGHT THERE. I grumble to my tank about how the RDM isn't getting the tower, and BOOM.
It explodes, and everyone takes way more damage than I expect.
But whatever. I get us all topped back up. Cursing and grumbling IRL, but whatever. It's my job and I do it!
Second set of towers come out and wouldn't you know it. The RDM still isn't getting the tower that they are right next to.
I shield us all up to get ready for the hit, but between a hard hit and the extra damage from the tower, tank still takes a lot more damage than I expected.
Its close but I heal everyone up, and we get through it. All the while I'm grumbling about how the RDM wasn't doing the mechanic.
I don't even notice that the RDM said something, I was too busy rolling on loot. FINALLY a healer piece!!!
My tank reads off to me. "Try to make healing the tank a priority." The RDM said.
I blink. They're already heading off to the next pull, but I'm having none of it.
I angrily type, and my tank is nervously laughing cause he's like already pulling. but its ok. I can type and heal.
I replied. "TRY TO MAKE DOING THE MECHANICS A PRIORITY."
We're in the middle of a pull and I'm so mad cause I'd covered their butt with not a complaint to them. Sure I whined and grumbled out loud, but I didn't call them out. I am sooooooo mad.
Like how dare you when just covered your butt.
From there its a little blurry cause I'm trying to heal and reply.
They try to make the excuse that its their first time (I saw no first time thing pop up) and how they hadn't died so I needed to calm down?
UH. YOU DIDN'T DIE BECAUSE I COVERED FOR YOU WHEN YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DOING THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Make healing the tank my priority? If it wasn't my priority, we'd have wiped because of the extra DMG.
My tank doesn't slow the pulls and I'm ok with this, I didn't want to deal with the drama, and I only replied out of principle.
You're new and not doing your job but you have the guts to tell me I'm not doing my job?
No one died. Not a single wipe. Not a single K.O.
The NIN had piped in and stuck up for me, typing while I continued to heal. Pretty much telling them off for saying I was playing badly. Which I laugh at. Cause again, not only did I keep everyone alive, but I also DPSed and had to make up for their mistakes.
The NIN reiterated it over and over until we were at the last boss room. (Which, I am super thankful for. TY NIN I'm glad you appreciated me!)
The RDM berates us both the whole way. I kept them alive though. Again, no deaths, no wipes, even when I'm replying to their stupidity.
As we're starting the last fight, the vote kick comes up and of course I agree to get rid of them. Sure maybe the caps were not necessary from me, but I did my job, and I was done with being called bad when I did my job.
We three-man the last fight which was a bit tough, but whatever.
As soon as I get of out the dungeon, I get a tell from a random.
"You're a c*** sucking piece of s***."
Wut. LMAO. Ok. We're playing hop on the alt (or so I assume). I have half a mind to reply but I just report and go to blacklist them but they are already offline like the coward they are.
Their main is on Balmung (*cough* I'm not surprised...) I blacklist them too.
Whatever. Me and my sweetie go to run Abania again and.
LMAO. GUESS WHO IS THERE?!
THE SALTY RDM.
I only manage to type "LMAO" before they leave.
Karma. Yeah, you go right back to sitting in that queue.
We got a BLM as a replacement and the run went as smooth as ever.
The BLM actually did the mechanic.
Last edited by Anarnee; 10-06-2017 at 01:29 PM.
Well, first of all, that tank was a moron and the party was a bunch of assholes for kicking you. Any tank that drops their tank stance has only themselves to blame if they lose aggro or die.
As for healer improvements, Largesse + Lightspeed is one possibility, but in addition to that, I also pop Synastry on the tank. If you're level 66 in Bardam's, you can also throw in some Ladies of Crown if you're lucky with the card draws, or some Boles on the tank. But, you can't heal a trainwreck of idiots, so that wipe wasn't your fault.
Oh for the love of Thal, this healer I got in Keeper of the Lake (50/60 roulette).
DO
NOT
QUEUE
IF
YOU
ARE
THAT
TIRED.
WHM spent a good chunk of the run just standing around. There weren't any critical problems until after the second boss. Healer shows up onscreen confirmed so I proceed forward to collect the six enemies. Healer for some reason remains really far behind and I'm forced to pop hallowed to live (1.4k hp or so remaining). After that pull I pull the next six enemies and I am pretty sure I lost the remaining 75% of my hp (after being healed up) without so as much as one single heal. WHM just sits there. I basically ask him/her to not stand around so much (I even added in a please!) and they respond thusly: "first off i'm tired as hell so no lip hunny". I'm sorry but if that is your excuse why are you queue'd up? I didn't insult you, nor did I give any "lip." I made a request.
I left then and there after their response. I don't have to do 50/60 roulette and I am surely not going to tank for someone that acts this way. My patience for troublesome attitudes isn't quite what it used to be.
Last edited by Mesarthim; 10-06-2017 at 05:45 PM.
Analysing your performance and seeing how you improve is fine. You got a tank that refused to believe he could make any mistakes ever. As a result, he tried to shift his blame onto you before they could call him out on it, in the hopes they'd try to blame you instead. As you can see, it unfortunately worked here. Just blacklist him and move on.
Ah, don't ya love it when karma bites someone on the butt. So glad they got hit with karma. And they go to the back of the DPS queue, AFTER a 30 min penalty. Ah, sweet sweet karma.
I wouldn't say "no lip" or anything like that, but I have tried to heal when tired. I generally do fine though, still doing actions etc, so I doubt being tired is a valid excuse, because I can still do a passable job healing even when tired.
The thing is they did reasonably fine throughout the first 2/3 of the dungeon. I mean the second pull with the 7 enemies (one being the serpent) went without a hitch. So it's not like I didn't have an understanding of what the party was capable of. I suppose I could have sugarcoated it a little bit but that's said and done now. Just strange a fine run went to smithereens in such a way.
I mean if I was tired and the party died on my account I'd at least own up to my mistake (such as in early 3.4 after hours of sophia ex practice I actually had cleric stance reversed on the first pull of ARF my brain melted), not jab back.
I actually had that happen today, not due to tiredness though. Kugane Castle, I'm BLM (other DPS is a SAM). DRK/WHM are our other 2. So DRK does the triple pull after second boss, and I position myself horribly by accident, put down my Ley Lines, and promptly take 5 cleaves to the face... I die, costing us the AoE needed to see through that pull. I run back as quick as I can, just in time to see the DRK and WHM die (after popping mana shift on the WHM), causing me to get creamed a second time. DRK is like "Hmm, maybe I overdid it there", to which I said it was my bad because I had positioned myself horribly. Everything else goes without a hitch.
(DRK) I guess this pull was to big :thinking:
(BLM) Nah, that was my bad
(SAM) No worries
(BLM) Badly positioned myself so I took too many cleaves to the face, which meant our AoE got sinkholed
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