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    F_Maximillian's Avatar
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    Ferox Maximillian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Why would you say Determination is not useless "yet?" What do you mean by that?
    Det appears to scale linearly while crit gets exponentially better the more of it you have. As our substat caps increase we'll get more use out of crit than det.
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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Is one Savage Aim VI enough to unlock Direct hits?
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    Is one Savage Aim VI enough to unlock Direct hits?
    Should be, but the rate of them happening is so low at that value that it's a rounding error.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Will crit be less valuable now that non-crit adlo gives a 150% shield, while crit is 200% shield? Crit heals result in a lot of overhealing, too.
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    Kira Thrinaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Why would you say Determination is not useless "yet?" What do you mean by that?
    Stats don't scale similar in this game. F_Maximillian explained very well, why crit gets better and better compared to det.
    Quote Originally Posted by F_Maximillian View Post
    Det appears to scale linearly while crit gets exponentially better the more of it you have. As our substat caps increase we'll get more use out of crit than det.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    Is one Savage Aim VI enough to unlock Direct hits?
    You need about 4 points direct hit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Will crit be less valuable now that non-crit adlo gives a 150% shield, while crit is 200% shield? Crit heals result in a lot of overhealing, too.
    Overhealing doesn't matter in this case, because if you see an crit adlo you adjust an heal less, which gives both healers more time to dps. Personally, i'd go crit all day for scholar and this change won't effect that. I try to heal with my fairy and indom most of the time anyway and reduce my shields usage. Besides, crit is good for dmg aswell.

    Edit: You got the changes wrong. Adlo and succor both cost less mana as of 4.1, but only succor got an potency buff. From 100% shield to 150%. At least thats what we know so far.
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    Last edited by era1Ne; 10-06-2017 at 01:06 AM.

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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Will crit be less valuable now that non-crit adlo gives a 150% shield, while crit is 200% shield? Crit heals result in a lot of overhealing, too.
    Um, source? Where was it said that Adlo's shield is being changed? I only saw for Succor. And even if it is, the current text of the spell is "when critical HP is restored, damage nullification is doubled", so unless they're changing that as well, crit shields would become 300% of heal, not 200%.
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Thank you for the DET explanation. So, does DET grow on a curve? I recall some players talking about Tenacity growing that way and that this kind of growth is why it's crap right now, but might be OP by 5.x... But it's all greek to me right now since I never melded much.

    Adlo's only buff is an MP cost decrease.
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