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    I lol at this thread...and what a weird system you got there, look like you are not a macro fan right ?

    ninja edit: key 4 is my favorite key for bad situation :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    I lol at this thread...and what a weird system you got there, look like you are not a macro fan right ?

    ninja edit: key 4 is my favorite key for bad situation :x
    I macro everything on bars 2 and 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I macro everything on bars 2 and 3.
    ..... then what is the point of the blank spaces?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    ..... then what is the point of the blank spaces?
    My sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    For me, it comes down to how I organize my bars.

    I separate the actions on my bars with an empty space.

    1-3 Standard attacks
    4 empty
    5-8 weaponskills
    9 empty
    0 Featerfoot

    11-14 self buffs
    15 empty
    16-19 situational
    20 Empty

    21-23 single target taunts
    24 empty
    25-28 aoe taunts
    29-30 empty


    New system does not allow this because my bars will have actions I can not remove.
    i'm not going to bash your system, if it works for you great. but it does seem a little rigid to me. anyhoo i'm guessing that system uses a lot of cross-class abilities. i'm guessing cross-class abilities won't be used quite as much, or as useful as they are now. so you will be forced to change your system anyway
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    What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

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    honestly the implications bother me more than the reality, but there really is no logical reason why you should HAVE to do it. The only gain to having to place every skill is its slightly easier for noobs, but i think customization of your skill bar outweighs this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinaru View Post
    Just seems silly to me to rule something out completely. Everything has some use some times, and I'm of the opinion that it's better to have access to as much as you can, just in case.

    But if that's your opinion, you're free to have it. I'm in no position to say otherwise.
    Well, let's take the example from the same dev post. WS1 is your base, WS2 is +enmity, WS3 and WS4 are +damage. Now, if that's on a class that I only ever play to farm mats or to DD on bosses, WS2 is useless to me. Like, completely useless. Yeah, I could try using it for just plain damage, but why do that when a combo with WS3 and WS4 will do significantly more damage?

    Conversely, if this is the class I tank on, WS3 and WS4 are almost useless, unless maybe we're on a burn phase of the fight and my enmity has a solid lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    I macro everything on bars 2 and 3.
    then skill dont need to have space between em and what s with the "sanity" reply ?
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    keep in mind guys, these changes are still in their feedback phase, so dont be afraid to disagree NOW, the question is what do you gain by HAVING to have all abilities equipped no mater what? I dont really see why even code this in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    honestly the implications bother me more than the reality, but there really is no logical reason why you should HAVE to do it. The only gain to having to place every skill is its slightly easier for noobs, but i think customization of your skill bar outweighs this.
    I think the reasoning behind it is in the text before these changes are enumerated:

    Furthermore, no differentiation is currently being made between setting an action learned through the current class and one belonging to another. This has rendered it difficult for each class to retain its uniqueness.
    In other words, it's completely doable to populate your skill bar with ONLY abilities from other classes and absolutely none from your own. This new system forces you to have all of your abilities equipped, thus forces you to play your own class.
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    Last edited by Answa; 11-12-2011 at 05:37 AM. Reason: Clarity

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