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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The reason it is irritating is because it simply screams of trying to nab players from the WoW playerbase. Why is it a (!)? It would have fit it much better with the world if it were a dimly shining crystal or simply a note on our minimap.

    On a side note, I would much rather see the minimap disappear. I've never liked built-in GPS systems in fantasy games. I'd much prefer it if we simply have a map that didn't point out our location. But I realize that I'm in the minority with this opinion.
    Actually Dreamer, you are more along the same path as I am in terms of having a true 'sandbox' game. I don't remember FF11 telling you precisely where you needed to go all the time. You never had to rely on a mini map. If you are always looking at a mini map, then you are not paying attention to the environment you're traveling on, you're just looking at the map in the corner.
    That's what I liked about FF11. It would say go to this region, and then off you went exploring and it was neat. Here in FF14, we already have a mini map and compass telling you where to go which is already intrusive. You should have the ability to turn it off. Otherwise you're just always looking for red dots all the time. FF11 was way more open and 'sandboxy'. FF14 already has friendly single player stuff in it, like said mini map compass and follow the red dots. Why do these players insist on ruining it by adding all of these standardized tropes in every other WOW clone?
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    The mini-map should be allowed to have a toggle. Perhaps for the newcomers or for different areas you've never been to, the mini-map is a good idea, but by the time you've done a few leves, you have basically memorised where all those monsters/goals will be. Do a few more behests, you have a 1 in 3 chance of getting the direction of the next batch of monsters right.

    Otherwise, I have no qualms about the side-quest exclamation mark. It's a convenience without it being too "BAM I HAVE A QUEST FOR YOU TO DO, DO IT OR I'LL BASH YOU" nor is it easy to miss, compared to checking every single NPC to find the quest you want to do.
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    Well RIFT failed, so scratch that one off your list of FF14 killers. People are dropping that game out of bordem, like a bad habit. Most of those MMOs will fail, TERA, star wars... lol The last Star Wars was supposed to kill WoW, and look WoW is still around and Star Wars had to create a new game and try again. It'll be hard for a Western style MMO to Kill Final Fantasy.. this whole thread is pointless... Really have no idea why I wasted my time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punxsutawney View Post
    Well RIFT failed, so scratch that one off your list of FF14 killers. People are dropping that game out of bordem, like a bad habit. Most of those MMOs will fail, TERA, star wars... lol The last Star Wars was supposed to kill WoW, and look WoW is still around and Star Wars had to create a new game and try again. It'll be hard for a Western style MMO to Kill Final Fantasy.. this whole thread is pointless... Really have no idea why I wasted my time...
    Game Developers major problem is they keep trying to steal WoW 12+ million. They should however try to get the other millions that don't like WoW and want a more unique MMO. WoW has a very loyal player base and nobody can take them away. In my opinion FFXIV could be the first to rival WoW without touching their player base(if Yoshi-P finds that gray area). FFXI was a very good game but never grew because it reached out only to Hardcore players.
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    Well there's a reason Guild Wars 2 and Archeage register at over 8.3 on the hype-meter at MMORPG.com, a figure FFXIV never had so far as I recall. The interest in those games stems from their apparent innovation in the gaming industry in areas such as dynamic quests and dynamic content, i.e., a world that can change and be changed. SE would do well to recognise that there is more to the MMO genre than simply remaking WoW with a Final Fantasy skin or remaking FFXI, which is very similar to WoW comparatively speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Well there's a reason Guild Wars 2 and Archeage register at over 8.3 on the hype-meter at MMORPG.com, a figure FFXIV never had so far as I recall. The interest in those games stems from their apparent innovation in the gaming industry in areas such as dynamic quests and dynamic content, i.e., a world that can change and be changed. SE would do well to recognise that there is more to the MMO genre than simply remaking WoW with a Final Fantasy skin or remaking FFXI, which is very similar to WoW comparatively speaking.
    the only succesful game in the world is FFXI.. That's why FFXIV has to be JUST LIKE IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    Well there's a reason Guild Wars 2 and Archeage register at over 8.3 on the hype-meter at MMORPG.com, a figure FFXIV never had so far as I recall. The interest in those games stems from their apparent innovation in the gaming industry in areas such as dynamic quests and dynamic content, i.e., a world that can change and be changed. SE would do well to recognise that there is more to the MMO genre than simply remaking WoW with a Final Fantasy skin or remaking FFXI, which is very similar to WoW comparatively speaking.
    I'm also amazed when I heard/read about GW2. I never played GW1 so I don't know how easy of a game it is but GW2 quest/content wise really sounds epic. Most other MMOs are just copying WoW basic/simple style instead of thinking outside the box a bit.
    A lot of people are having a hard time finding that "perfect" MMO simply because they all feel so much alike. There isn't much out there that leaves you amazed for long. They may have some features thats cool here and there but everything else seems so familiar, simple, or just boring.

    Hell I'm one of those people and I made up my mind im only giving 3 more MMOs a shot then im done and going back to shooting/sports games. FFXIV, GW2, or SWTOR are those 3. If FFXIV fails than I will move to GW2 or SWTOR(whichever is out first)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    I'm also amazed when I heard/read about GW2. I never played GW1 so I don't know how easy of a game it is but GW2 quest/content wise really sounds epic. Most other MMOs are just copying WoW basic/simple style instead of thinking outside the box a bit.
    A lot of people are having a hard time finding that "perfect" MMO simply because they all feel so much alike. There isn't much out there that leaves you amazed for long. They may have some features thats cool here and there but everything else seems so familiar, simple, or just boring.

    Hell I'm one of those people and I made up my mind im only giving 3 more MMOs a shot then im done and going back to shooting/sports games. FFXIV, GW2, or SWTOR are those 3. If FFXIV fails than I will move to GW2 or SWTOR(whichever is out first)...
    Most games copy basic EQ principles did you know that? Probably didn't you play FFXi, which apparently, started MMORPGs.

    A lot of people find a hard time finding a good MMORPG because they have played them before. Do you want to play FFXI again, I actually challenge your answer to that because if you had to do it over again RIGHT NOW from scratch you'd say "Fuck it".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    I'm also amazed when I heard/read about GW2. I never played GW1 so I don't know how easy of a game it is but GW2 quest/content wise really sounds epic. Most other MMOs are just copying WoW basic/simple style instead of thinking outside the box a bit.
    A lot of people are having a hard time finding that "perfect" MMO simply because they all feel so much alike. There isn't much out there that leaves you amazed for long. They may have some features thats cool here and there but everything else seems so familiar, simple, or just boring.

    Hell I'm one of those people and I made up my mind im only giving 3 more MMOs a shot then im done and going back to shooting/sports games. FFXIV, GW2, or SWTOR are those 3. If FFXIV fails than I will move to GW2 or SWTOR(whichever is out first)...
    You could wait and try ArcheAge before you lose all hope. SWTOR might not be too great, by the looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valor View Post
    FF has a set, dedicated fanbase, who like their games a particular way.
    Yes, and part of that "particular way" includes making them single player games. Most of the FF fanbase absolutely hated FFXI.
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