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  1. #801
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    I've also got it in my head that Savage currently won't let you enter with two people on the same job? likely wrong there tho =(
    Doesn't concern premades (only when you queue without full party). The issue with class stacking is of course gaining LB slower, if you need it for specific part or something.
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  2. #802
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    EbonySeraphim's Avatar
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    Ebony Seraph
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jollyy5 View Post
    I consider healer DPS as another type of healing, the faster the mobs/boss dies, the less damage people will take.
    This is true for pulls in dungeons, but not bosses unless adds have spawned. It also keeps things safer for very large pulls (pushing limits) as the pull's size must be reduced before tank CDs wear off.
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  3. #803
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EbonySeraphim View Post
    This is true for pulls in dungeons, but not bosses unless adds have spawned. It also keeps things safer for very large pulls (pushing limits) as the pull's size must be reduced before tank CDs wear off.
    I might not be reading your comment correctly, but I would suggest that the healer DPS is plenty impactful on bosses even though healer AoE really shines on trash. Expert dungeon bosses require so little healing that an experienced healer should be able to maintain high DPS uptime, and naturally faster boss kill = even less healing. Can even skip mechanics.
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    Last edited by Cynfael; 09-28-2017 at 02:12 AM.

  4. #804
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by EbonySeraphim View Post
    This is true for pulls in dungeons, but not bosses unless adds have spawned.
    Mathematically, it's true for everything.

    Consider a boss that deals 1 DPS (Damage Per Second).

    If he survives 10 seconds, that means he will do 10 damage total. If he survives only 8, he only deals 8 damage total. If he dies instantly, he can't do any damage at all. The longer he survives, the more damage he does and thus, the more healing will be required to undo the damage caused. And the more damage you do, the shorter the boss survives. I've purposely picked some easy numbers for the example here - the principle doesn't change just because there are a few more zeroes at the end.
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  5. #805
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Watching the live letter and they are showing squadrons running a dungeon. The healer is DPSing until the tank's HP reaches a set threshold. The AI healer is DPSing. There are no excuses now.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 09-29-2017 at 10:52 PM.

  6. #806
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    Terkhev's Avatar
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    Shiro Terkhev
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Watching the live letter and they are showing squadrons running a dungeon. The healer is DPSing until the tank's HP reaches a set threshold. The AI healer is DPSing. There are no excuses now.
    Damn, you beat me to it. I couldn't help but chuckle when I saw that.
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  7. #807
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Watching the live letter and they are showing squadrons running a dungeon. The healer is DPSing until the tank's HP reaches a set threshold. The AI healer is DPSing. There are no excuses now.
    Sweet victory!
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  8. #808
    Player Aquaslash's Avatar
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    Zinnia Higana
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 70
    This is gonna be good
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  9. #809
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    Ku Rando
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    To be fair, NPCs (or AI) in many solo duties throughout the game have been able to DPS and throw out heals to the hero or other nearby characters so seeing squadrons do this is actually nothing new, probably utilizes the same system. Also the squadron is not manually controlled so it's barely a fair comparison. Not that I'm saying healers should never try to DPS, but it's barely a sound arguement.
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  10. 09-30-2017 02:50 AM

  11. #810
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Watching the live letter and they are showing squadrons running a dungeon. The healer is DPSing until the tank's HP reaches a set threshold. The AI healer is DPSing. There are no excuses now.
    Waiting for a post about how we should consider the AI heal bots' feelings too.
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