Question About Lalafell Sibling Names

[Ametrine]

They all share that unneeded double-k, however, which may be their naming quirk to show relation.

[alimdia]

Popokkuli, Seserukka and their sister Nenekko. To my knowledge we've never learnt their secondary names, though.

Though we do know the secondary name is different for each one if we follow naming convention, Nenekko would be "Nenekko Nekko", Seserukka would be "Seserukka ____rukka" and so.

[Kacho_Nacho]

The Sons in Amajina and Sons? Those siblings appear in the Qarn HM quest.

Ha! I just finished that quest. The ending made me chuckle. Clever, Nenekko. Very clever.

As far as the sibling names, all they share is the double k. (Which has been already pointed out)

So, I'm guessing as long as the first names & last names follow the naming scheme anything is game, unless said character decides to not follow the naming conventions. All of this is fascinating stuff especially when you consider how important family is to a lalafell. It strongly suggests that they place a lot of emphasis on individuality too.

[Ametrine]

From what I've gathered from NPCs scattered about, Lalafell really don't have anything akin to a surname as a means of relations, but it does seem like family members like to use the same syllables to relate back to each other.

Compare this to say, Hellsguard Roegadyn, who have a culture that straight up enforces individuality and minimizes familial ties, with names being completely personalized, but you still see siblings like High Tide and Low Tide.


So, it could be as simple as a Lalafellian couple thinking it's adorable to name their daughters Hihira and Hehera, while their neighbors name theirs Zuzune and Fafali. Maybe they just don't look at names as a key means to tie yourself to your heritage?

[Mysterysword]

Maybe they just don't look at names as a key means to tie yourself to your heritage?

It's a somewhat subtle detail, but I always found it interesting how Eorzeans tend to refer to each other, even in more distant social settings, by their given names, rather than their surnames. Perhaps that's because Lalafell and male Seekers of the Sun don't even have formal family names, and when such a large subset of the population doesn't have them, it becomes more common to refer to even your rulers by their first names.

It's probably also worth noting that in real-life, surnames are a relatively recent phenomenon in Japan. Until the Meiji Restoration in 1868, commoners didn't have surnames, and even today, members of the Imperial family of Japan carry no surname.

[CaesarCV]

It's probably also worth noting that in real-life, surnames are a relatively recent phenomenon in Japan. Until the Meiji Restoration in 1868, commoners didn't have surnames, and even today, members of the Imperial family of Japan carry no surname.

They're actually a relatively recent phenomenon in the rest of the world as well. Most European commoners did not have any sort of surname until the massive reforms caused by the Napoleonic regimes and the associated fallout. I tend to assume that most commoners don't have surnames in medieval style setting in general.

[Ametrine]

It's a somewhat subtle detail, but I always found it interesting how Eorzeans tend to refer to each other, even in more distant social settings, by their given names, rather than their surnames. Perhaps that's because Lalafell and male Seekers of the Sun don't even have formal family names, and when such a large subset of the population doesn't have them, it becomes more common to refer to even your rulers by their first names.

You also see this quirk with certain NPCs using titles over their actual surnames. Particularly amoung Elezan (Aymeric the Blue, Haurchefant Greystone, Alaimbert of the Spiked Butt), but not exclusively (Franz the Fair).

I recall Pipin was shown with such a name in one instance, but I'm frustrated now since I can't a picture of it!

[Serilda]

You also see this quirk with certain NPCs using titles over their actual surnames. Particularly amoung Elezan (Aymeric the Blue, Haurchefant Greystone, Alaimbert of the Spiked Butt), but not exclusively (Franz the Fair).

Haurchefant Greystone is his actual name. His title is Haurchefant of the Silver Fuller. A lot of non-Elezen have style titles too but we saw a huge number of Ishgardian ones in Heavensward which probably makes them seem dominant.

[Eloah]

It's a somewhat subtle detail, but I always found it interesting how Eorzeans tend to refer to each other, even in more distant social settings, by their given names, rather than their surnames. Perhaps that's because Lalafell and male Seekers of the Sun don't even have formal family names, and when such a large subset of the population doesn't have them, it becomes more common to refer to even your rulers by their first names.

But one thing to remember is that Eorzea is not Japan, and I'm not meaning that literally either. Eorzea is based on Africa, if I remember correctly. Granted, addressing people by their surname is dependent more on culture, but most countries don't use it as an everyday occurrence. for instance, lets say you are a high school student, in America you'd call the teacher by the name you are told Mr/Mrs so-and-so, same as you would in Japan, but if you need to talk to a student you know the name of but barely know you'd still address them by their first name, but in Japan you say their last name.

The main reason for this is how each country views respect. In America if someone calls you your first name it feels respectful, but only a close personal friend/someone you are really close with can use just your last name. It's the direct opposite in Japan, saying their last name feels respectful, but anyone beside someone they are close to or special using their first name feels insulting. In addition, in Japan using someones first name, while it can be insulting depending on the person, is also a way to show status. A teacher or boss might call you by your first name, not out of respect, but to show they are above you. And in America if your boss calls you by your last name, well... lol

It's semi complicated, but for the most part I think in video games as a whole, even if a character has a last name, their first name is still used, if it is given; and if the first name is know but the last name is the preferred method of address, its usually an insult or to show respect. The best examples I can give are from Bravely Default, there is Sage Yulyana, whose first name is never stated; though Sage can be a name and title, lol. There is Lester DeRosso who is addressed as Lord DeRosso out of respect, and Fiore DeRosa, who is called "(expletive) DeRosa" as a way of disrespect.

Also don't forget that most Plainsfolk Lalafells are addressed by both first and last names. It's never just Alka it's Alka Zolka.

On another side note I feel any future RDMs are gonna draw a lot of inspiration from DeRosa, since he's become influential for the theme itself as of late.

[Mysterysword]

How is Eorzea meant to be based on Africa? Sure, the shape of Aldenard is roughly the same as Africa, but the climates sure aren't. The cultures and societies are drawn from all over the world, not just in Africa - Ishgard, for example, is a mixture of French and English culture, transported to a winter wonderland with dragons.

Also, the US is a big country, and while I've never been there, I wouldn't assume that cultural norms of name usage are the same all across it.

Anyway, while we're on the topic of names, it seems that much like how close friends of a Seeker of the Sun would drop the tribal suffix from their name when addressing them, male Elezen also have one or two syllables dropped from their names by close friends (e.g: Niellefresne [which my phone tried to spellcheck to Nier espresso, tf?] to Nielle, Jannequinard to Janne, and Alphy).