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    Quote Originally Posted by JCharms View Post
    Im not sure if its been mentioned, but I like SWTOR's system over WOW's as it does not tie the glam to pieces at all.
    Its a little like costumes in GW2, except you get to make the costume from individual pieces you have collected and stamp them into a set, and you can have up to 16 sets.
    But I do like the gear collections system in wow, tie that into the SWTOR system and you have the ultimate glam system.
    Sounds kind of like Lord of the Rings Online had. You made up to 7 different outfits that you could switch between at any time, and then of course the 8th slot was the "gear" look so you go back to the appearance of the gear you had on if you liked it. Plus it was all dyeable, and appearances can be unlocked/stored indefinitely in your bank so you never had to keep it on hand anymore. This is a game much older than XIV and had a way more robust cosmetic system.

    Either way, I want to see what Yoshi has in mind since they mentioned something about glamours and recalling appearances in the last live letter. All I know is, if I can't have different looks per gear set rather than the gear itself so I can finally make my jobs look different, I'm going to be pretty upset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Then they clearly don't have the slightest clue about the target audience for an MMO. Those dungeons and raids they release every content patch can only last for so many runs, glamour and housing are the primary attractors during the vastly longer interim periods. To not put glamour as one of the highest priorities is just... terrible.
    100% this. Is SE oblivious to what their subscribers are up to? A lot of the glamours players are after can be quite time consuming to get. Many glams require dungeon runs, high level crafting and gathering, gil dumps, EX trial runs, acquiring expensive dyes, and so forth. If they think players don't put as much effort, if not more into their glamour than trials and raids then they truly don't have a clue.

    Given the ability to glamour all their jobs they take seriously without consequence, players would spend even more time acquiring their glams. SE should probably get on board, before even dedicated players decide to jump ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJaySaint View Post
    Sounds kind of like Lord of the Rings Online had. You made up to 7 different outfits that you could switch between at any time, and then of course the 8th slot was the "gear" look so you go back to the appearance of the gear you had on if you liked it. Plus it was all dyeable, and appearances can be unlocked/stored indefinitely in your bank so you never had to keep it on hand anymore.
    This is essentially WildStar's system as well, with 12 costume sets plus one for the default gear. And once an appearance is learned, you can vendor/salvage the gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    This is essentially WildStar's system as well, with 12 costume sets plus one for the default gear. And once an appearance is learned, you can vendor/salvage the gear.
    I never played WildStar but it's pretty frustrating to see all of these games with much better cosmetic systems than Final Fantasy. I don't know why such a huge aspect of the game was overlooked by devs. Nothing would get players to run old content more than glamour.
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    bumping up!
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    They should have tied glamour to the gear set saves instead of the gear pieces themselves. This is a hindsight thing, it's be tricky now that they have the system set up a different way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    They should have tied glamour to the gear set saves instead of the gear pieces themselves. This is a hindsight thing, it's be tricky now that they have the system set up a different way.
    Not really. They already have all glamour information saved in every gear set, down to what color each piece is dyed. The information is already there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJaySaint View Post
    Not really. They already have all glamour information saved in every gear set, down to what color each piece is dyed. The information is already there.
    Mis-read the comment, but still worth the bit below for those that wanna check themselves.

    Not even that. The gearsets even remember what gear was glamoured onto something. Go ahead and test it yourself. Get an item and put glamour on it. Save the gearset. Then remove the glamour but do NOT save the gearset. Switch to the gearset and it will come up saying about its different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snat View Post
    Mis-read the comment, but still worth the bit below for those that wanna check themselves.

    Not even that. The gearsets even remember what gear was glamoured onto something. Go ahead and test it yourself. Get an item and put glamour on it. Save the gearset. Then remove the glamour but do NOT save the gearset. Switch to the gearset and it will come up saying about its different.
    That's true, didn't think of that the frame work is there then. I might be easier for them to change then I thought, buuuut they still aren't doing it.
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    yes pleeease, i don't want to go mining in bikini anymore, but i also don't want to go fishing in clothes... xD
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