Samurai rotation Hagakure or midare

[Zojha]

Quick math:
Shinten is 300 potency for 25 Kenki weavable.
-> 12 Potency per Kenki
Midare is 720 potency on the GCD for 3 Sen. 240 potency per Sen.
Hagakure -> 1 Sen = 20 Kenki = 240 potency per Sen if used on Shinten (Potency value for Kenki differs between skills).

-> Hagakure + Shinten is better, because you can weave it between GCDs, whereas Midare takes up a GCD slot. That's my take on it.

[MauvaisOeil]

Quick math:
Shinten is 300 potency for 25 Kenki weavable.
-> 12 Potency per Kenki
Midare is 720 potency on the GCD for 3 Sen. 240 potency per Sen.
Hagakure -> 1 Sen = 20 Kenki = 240 potency per Sen if used on Shinten (Potency value for Kenki differs between skills).

-> Hagakure + Shinten is better, because you can weave it between GCDs, whereas Midare takes up a GCD slot. That's my take on it.

There is even more of a difference, as Midare is "only" 720potency on the GCD where you have to account the potential loss of an auto attack plus the regular median of GCD you would use instead. Midare is thus, far from beeing so good in damage, and Hakagure is then a big increase in damage, even more if you use it during group buffs.

[Phoenicia]

There is even more of a difference, as Midare is "only" 720potency on the GCD where you have to account the potential loss of an auto attack plus the regular median of GCD you would use instead. Midare is thus, far from beeing so good in damage, and Hakagure is then a big increase in damage, even more if you use it during group buffs.

I thought Midare with some Kenki ready is a dps gain if you "squeeze the burst" into group buffs, outside of group buffs Hagakure is always a DPS gain. Correct me if I'm misguided please.

[MauvaisOeil]

I thought Midare with some Kenki ready is a dps gain if you "squeeze the burst" into group buffs, outside of group buffs Hagakure is always a DPS gain. Correct me if I'm misguided please.

I am no specialist of Sam, but I guess it's more interesting to use standard combo + 4 or 5 Shinten during Trick attack window, than a Midare with Kaiten.

However, It is probably better to use everything together (Meikyo shisui, Hakagure, Midare + kaiten and spam Hakagure at the same time but I don't know how it can be practically done.

Simply said : One big hit is not allways better than many more little hits. In the end, sen into kenki is allways superior to Sen finisher, that's for sure.