Confusion: Archer to Bard? Where is the Ranger Job?

[Anonymoose]

I think it is ok that you(?) may not want another ranged DD in this game, however, you are not the only person playing, and I think we can both agree that since the creation of these forums there has been nothing except asking for players feedback and trying to gauge community reaction to one thing or another. IF players want a ranged damage dealer, which archer in its currently "nerfed" state is not, then they should be allowed to ask for it even if now is not the time to add it or whatever other argument and bias others may have against it.

I SMELL A POLL! ... (Well, those words weren't very well thought out...)

Though, to be fair, I'm not really talking about my own desires for what should and shouldn't be in the game - I would just lament the imbalance of having classes that have a lot of responsibilities, and then a cop-out class that just stands where nothing can hit it and and spams the same action until hate gets too high.

Idk, I just see a subtle but important difference between that stance and me actually saying my opinion should be gospel. Are there people who think it's fair and fine if one job has markedly less responsibilities than the others and just gets to faff around whenever their one trick will get themselves or someone else killed?

[Scherwiz]

I SMELL A POLL! ... (Well, those words weren't very well thought out...)

Though, to be fair, I'm not really talking about my own desires for what should and shouldn't be in the game - I would just lament the imbalance of having classes that have a lot of responsibilities, and then a cop-out class that just stands where nothing can hit it and and spams the same action until hate gets too high.

Idk, I just see a subtle but important difference between that stance and me actually saying my opinion should be gospel. Are there people who think it's fair and fine if one job has markedly less responsibilities than the others and just gets to faff around whenever their one trick will get themselves or someone else killed?

The same can be said about Black Mage though if you really want to boil down to it, there isn't any reason why Ranger/Whatever shouldn't be given crowd control abilities there are other advantages to standing directly away from battle.

[Anonymoose]

The same can be said about Black Mage though if you really want to boil down to it, there isn't any reason why Ranger/Whatever shouldn't be given crowd control abilities there are other advantages to standing directly away from battle.

This could be; BLM is in the same danger that ARC was - but only if it loses access to any major chunk of THM spells it had. The THM skill set is full of things that need to be closely monitored - DoT rotations need to stay up, back-up sacrifices need to be thrown, Keeping stygian spikes II on the tank, recycling the MP management abilities - actually doing direct damage is almost a secondary responsibility. As long as ANY portion of this carries over from THM to BLM, I'd say it's safe from the ranged DD scenario I'm concerned about. Hell, even MP Management, Hate Management, and Backup Cures would be more responsibility than "Don't take hate. Don't get in the way. Keep kicking ass."

EDIT:
Crowd control would be a nice start for secondary responsibility for a ranged DD, but it'd be so rarely required; single-target battles and parties wouldn't require it at all, only dungeon/stronghold raids (Which again, is a nice start, but one or two more things would be nice. I'd say maybe some buff rotations from a distance, but that's bard, and that's what people are angry about - any other ideas? There's still time to influence the next ranged classes.)

[Scherwiz]

I SMELL A POLL! ... (Well, those words weren't very well thought out...)

Oh GOD ANYTHING BUT THAT, YOU WIN, I GIVE UP, GAME OVER MAN GAME OVER.