Good bye FFXIV tanking..... maybe.....

[GDFletcher]

Ran a dungeon other day with my friend (levelling) ended up with Sirensong Sea, the WAR ran off like a lunatic and gathered everything they could then it was a case of hitting every heal, bubble the works, at this point said nut job doesn't attempt to avoid the "blue" aoe markers on the floor so more damage on a squishy tank as it is.... This pace continued on to the inner room with the 2 sets of trash and the coffin arm man, how at this point the tank didn't die will come down to me saying I am a fluke healer. I hate the mentality of large pulls especially to that degree. I dont mind on my own tank to take 2-3 packs at a time but I don't go off pulling everything and the kitchen sink because I am bored.

Luckily when you are in a FC you can run with guild mates and you don't get that pressure placed upon you as much. So good luck in future, I would like to see SE introduce killing mechanics for mass pulls, like mobs buffing each other so that the more you pull the less damage the entire pack will take up to the point of them being immune to damage, and furthermore add a mob that increased the out put of damage to pack so that they will be hitting you for 50% of the person with highest threats HP so get a WAR going crazy like above the mobs would be taking no damage and hitting you for a minimum of 25k each. Getting your posterior handed to you this bad would wake some players up

[dragonseth07]

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No offense, but your ideas are awful. There is no reason to punish players for making big pulls. We have AoE spells for a reason.

[Launched]

Ran a dungeon other day with my friend (levelling) ended up with Sirensong Sea, the WAR ran off like a lunatic and gathered everything they could then it was a case of hitting every heal, bubble the works

This pace continued on to the inner room with the 2 sets of trash and the coffin arm man

All the SB leveling dungeons are good for big pulls, except maybe the 69 one. I did big pulls in Sirensong on day 1 and the majority of runs I've done there on other roles have has big pulls. It's not challenging or risky, and all the gating means you can't actually pull too much.

SE has already added a ton of gating since 2.0. We really don't need more obnoxious mechanics designed to slow down the game.

[Rufalus]

Some people ask for more without realising how greatly the incoming damage can vary in different dungeons. You can hugely overgear 50/60 dungeons and receive almost no damage, but leveling dungeons have a much tighter sync. People should only motion to increase pace if they are sure they know what they are doing, but better yet just respect different play styles and give people the time they need because not everyone has the same amount of experience under their belt.

[Zojha]

SE has already added a ton of gating since 2.0.

In fact, you can rarely gather more than 2 packs nowadays. I'm not sure there's any pull left in modern dungeons where you can gather more than 3.

That means that there isn't much leeway to regulate the pace either - You either pull door-to-door, or you're pulling single groups.

[silverlunarfox]

I dictate the speed of a run or change because of a many factors

Then keep doing it. Screw everyone else. You will always have the fastest queue overall anyways if they kick you. No one is forcing you to quit.

If I let others get to me I would've quit this game a long time ago, but I didn't. I still tank, I will remain mostly a tank main. I pull what my party can handle. The salty can either try to boot me, or leave. But the joke is always on them Instaqueues ftw!

[whiskeybravo]

In fact, you can rarely gather more than 2 packs nowadays. I'm not sure there's any pull left in modern dungeons where you can gather more than 3.

That means that there isn't much leeway to regulate the pace either - You either pull door-to-door, or you're pulling single groups.

Kugane Castle after 2nd boss you can pull 3 packs (bomb+2 flying things, 2 giant knights, 2 goblin things+bombs). 2nd pull of Temple of Fist you can gather 3 packs (2 sets of flying bug things + coeurls). Doma Castle you can pull 3 packs after one of the bosses (Giant + 2 small adds, 3 soldiers, 3 soldiers+mech).

Those are at least a few I can think of. I don't think there's anything larger than those, though. The only 3 pack pull I've personally done is that one in Kugane. If DF tho I usually stop at the 2 giant knights (and stick to 2 packs in general)

[Areic]

I big pull every single dungeon past 60, I avoid it in low level dungeons because scaling makes it weird and classes don't typically have the aoe to make it worth.

Not once have I had someone complain to me about the pulls, even when I pull every mob possible and it gets a little iffy popping my cooldowns. If you're capable of doing it, just do it. If you're not capable, lacking confidence, gear, or both, let your party know and they'll usually understand, not that they'll like it. Once you're at an ilvl above the dungeon especially it's a cakewalk and you're just slowing down the party by pulling slow, a lot of players hate being stuck in the same dungeon they're made to run by SE for tomes every week. Not that it isn't fun at first, but the same two dungeons for the next 4-6 months rarely stays fun to anyone.

If you're unlucky enough to be pulling at your own pace and you consistently get people being asses, either A: Get a group of FC mates or friends, or B: perhaps try a different role because tanking experts is so ungodly easy in this game that refusing to mass pull is just a waste of time if every single person in your party isn't in the most poop-tier gear possible, thus why they get pull crazy.

[QT_Melon]

In fact, you can rarely gather more than 2 packs nowadays. I'm not sure there's any pull left in modern dungeons where you can gather more than 3.

That means that there isn't much leeway to regulate the pace either - You either pull door-to-door, or you're pulling single groups.

That's really not true at all.

Kugane, Temple, and Ala Mhigo all have dungeons where you can pull more than 2 or you can do a half pull. In fact there's spots where most of these dungeons can do a super pull, but and it's even better when the melee leave the LB to ranged for those trash pulls.

Kugane Castle after 2nd boss you can pull 3 packs (bomb+2 flying things, 2 giant knights, 2 goblin things+bombs). 2nd pull of Temple of Fist you can gather 3 packs (2 sets of flying bug things + coeurls). Doma Castle you can pull 3 packs after one of the bosses (Giant + 2 small adds, 3 soldiers, 3 soldiers+mech).

There's still more. Temple you can pull the second set Soldiers/and Coeurl all the way to where you get to the final boss.

Ala Migho you can pull everything up to the laser gates. You can also pull the "apes" soldiers and dogs all the way up the steps to where the second boss is.

Violet Tides you can pull up to the partitions as you come around that L shaped bend where the chest is on the far left on your way to the second boss.

If there's a part for large in at least most of the dungeons I know of for this new Xpac - it's hardly "rare".

[Hruodig]

Be nice.

This post serves no purpose other than being a pity party for the op because they don't like the tanking/dungeon meta. They could've posted about it in the thread that's already open about that exact subject, or the other one that's open that's also about mass pulling in dungeons, but instead they chose to make a completely separate post just to draw attention to themselves. Don't really see the point.