Faking disconnects

[Zfz]

Nvidia currently has an issue with its drivers that causes Directx11 errors constantly yet refuses to acknowledge them.

So you take your chances and when you get another error in the middle of a party content, everyone's supposed to suffer and accommodate you? My EVG A8800GT had an overheating problem and I had to un-overclock it (it was factory overclock) to play FFXIV stably. If you know you can downgrade to DX9 and get a stable experience, why would you insist on using DX11 and cause disruption in group content?

I'm not strongly promoting adding a disconnect penalty, but I can agree with it. I am also of the opinion that unless the problem is on Square Enix's shoulders, you should first try to solve it or work around it before doing goup content.

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I suppose that's the main difference between the "eastern" way of thinking and "western" way of thinking. If you put "me" upfront, then sure, it's not my fault so you should all accommodate my disconnects. If you put "people" upfront, then you try to avoid causing disruptions. In your eyes I'm being selfish and demand that you degrade your experience, but I'm actually talking from the perspective of someone having the disconnects, i.e., I'm trying to be selfless in upholding everyone else's experience.

I guess I'm in the wrong forum for that.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So you take your chances and when you get another error in the middle of a party content, everyone's supposed to suffer and accommodate you? My EVG A8800GT had an overheating problem and I had to un-overclock it (it was factory overclock) to play FFXIV stably. If you know you can downgrade to DX9 and get a stable experience, why would you insist on using DX11 and cause disruption in group content?

Because the disconnect is entirely random and inconsistent. I did numerous stress tests but couldn't know if they worked until the game crashed again, i.e., I had to run Directx11 otherwise how do I know it's solved? Keep in mind, these disconnects only trigger when queuing into DF. So before you say "don't use DF," that isn't an option. When I discovered underclocking solved the issue more or less, I did that. So either I permanently downgrade my experience until Nvidia one day fixes it or I test solutions. Your "suffering" is a meager two minutes or less. I think you'll manage.

I suppose that's the main difference between the "eastern" way of thinking and "western" way of thinking. If you put "me" upfront, then sure, it's not my fault so you should all accommodate my disconnects. If you put "people" upfront, then you try to avoid causing disruptions. In your eyes I'm being selfish and demand that you degrade your experience, but I'm actually talking from the perspective of someone having the disconnects, i.e., I'm trying to be selfless in upholding everyone else's experience.

I guess I'm in the wrong forum for that.

Knock off the woe is me nonsense. Your stance isn't selfless. You "can agree with" a system that punishes players who have occasional disconnects through no fault of their own because your experience was temporarily interrupted for two minutes. Furthermore, this idea is rooted entirely on the premise of people willfully disconnecting to escape dungeons they dislike or to dodge the penalty. It's design is inherently to presume guilt wholesale because you may meet a jerk sometimes. Vastly more people will be inconvenienced by such a system than those punished who aren't likely to care about a 30 minute penalty anyway. And this doesn't even begin to factor how American ISPs work. Many places are devoid of choice. You're locked to Comcast or Verzion. If they're having difficulties, your stance means people have to stay out of DF for days, possibly forcing their raid groups to find a sub because a random disconnect means they are locked out of DF.

All because you don't want to be inconvenienced.

[Miste]

I suppose that's the main difference between the "eastern" way of thinking and "western" way of thinking. If you put "me" upfront, then sure, it's not my fault so you should all accommodate my disconnects. If you put "people" upfront, then you try to avoid causing disruptions. In your eyes I'm being selfish and demand that you degrade your experience, but I'm actually talking from the perspective of someone having the disconnects, i.e., I'm trying to be selfless in upholding everyone else's experience.

If someone was trying to be "selfless" and really cared about "people" and not themselves they probably wouldn't generalize and insult whole cultures just to try to prove a point in a video game forum.

[Alleo]

So you take your chances and when you get another error in the middle of a party content, everyone's supposed to suffer and accommodate you?

So they should for an unknown time stop playing a big part of the game because they could get an error and disconnect? People can always have days that went by without a single disconnect and then they can have one where everything is fine and suddenly they might have one. If its a normal DC then they should be back really fast and it should not be too much for the people to wait a bit. Punishing a probably way more bigger part of the community for their unwanted Disconnect just because some people are horrible and fake theirs is a really bad idea.