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  1. #11
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    Geesus Ravenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddea View Post
    In my opinion they should hold transfer method for at least 1 week, to give an opportunity to all "homeless" ones to acquire a new house first.
    But then you have to think about the fact you would be alienating people who do have homes that want to move to the new area. I get your idea but it's no different than allowing current owners access first except you're playing the sympathy card because you said "homeless" in your comment.

    While many FCs did hope they would allow a transfer, I wasn't planning on it NOR did I think it would be as great as what they have devised. I'm sure I'm not the only one who worked to get up or already had the gil to buy a similar size home or upgrade to something larger.

    So either way you cut it, this affords anyone and everyone who can an opportunity to purchase a home. You just have to decide, do you go for the new area that will be swamped with probably EVERYONE OR do you hangout in one of the old wards for a house that does get transferred?
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  2. #12
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    Bamboo Panda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddea View Post
    In my opinion they should hold transfer method for at least 1 week, to give an opportunity to all "homeless" ones to acquire a new house first.
    Think of it this way.

    Player A has a large house. Player B has no house.

    Under your suggestion, player B buys a mansion. Now 50 millions get spent and one more player gets a house.

    Under SE's plan, player A buys a mansion in Shirogane and pays 45 millions (using discount) and player B buys player A's old mansion for 50 millions. Again, one more player gets a house but 95 millions leave the circulation.

    Since housing is meant as a gil sink, the second option makes more sense.

    In terms of fairness, we have thousands(?) of homeless players competing for a Shirogane plot. Throw in the hundreds of existing homeowners into the mix would barely make a difference, especially since many homeowners will not bother trying at all.
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  3. #13
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    Astral Flame
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    On my server its a 5 to 1 ratio. It may be worse than that but its seems like 1 out of 5 homes per ward is an fc house which is sad.

    I checked out different wards in different areas and found a lot of homes with barely any decorations inside or outside, which really concerns me. I dont understand why anyone would want to buy so many homes just to allow them to be unused for no reason other than to turn a profit. I dont understand why SE allowed this in the first place. You should only be allowed 1 house per account period.

    I own a small home and looking to transfer to the new area but I'm all for waiting a week so FC's have a chance to get a house. It's only fair and it would help prevent greedy players from exploiting the system on day one. But to make it work the dev team will need to put a freeze on multiple house syndrome on all accounts for 2 weeks prior to launch and possibly not allow new FC's to be created 2 weeks prior to launch.

    This will allow FC's that do not have a house some breathing room to purchase a home. Once the 1st week is over anyone who wants to transfer (limited to 1 house per account) or those who dont have a home can do so with some breathing room. Once the 2 weeks are up then all players can go nuts.
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    Last edited by Astral145; 09-15-2017 at 06:49 AM.

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  4. #14
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    Dante Haiwindo
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    on Ultros, there's just a housing shortage period. some of us didn't get to even get a house with the expansions because of spliter FCs and FCs in general. I get FCs having houses is good, but to limit the new ward to ONLY FCs...seems stilted. there will be Personal houses and the like there, you shouldn't make it just a hub for FCs.

    I refuse to pay 100mil just to have a house, when i know that there's new housing coming out. this is for a medium. not a large. people are just insane when it comes to these things. giving the new ward over to FCs runs the risk of every one of the FCs to pretty much swarm in to a new place that many players were looking forward to.
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  5. #15
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    Mira Rara
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    As a FC owner, you should have more competitive power over individual in buying house. If you still can't get a house with the whole FC, you merely lost in term of competition, and don't deserve them anyway.
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    Lilora Sparrow
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    Why would FCs be more important than individuals? That's unfair to people who don't own an FC or prefer to stay on their own. Owning an FC doesn't give you privileges over other players.
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  7. #17
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Panda View Post
    Think of it this way.

    Player A has a large house. Player B has no house.

    Under your suggestion, player B buys a mansion. Now 50 millions get spent and one more player gets a house.

    Under SE's plan, player A buys a mansion in Shirogane and pays 45 millions (using discount) and player B buys player A's old mansion for 50 millions. Again, one more player gets a house but 95 millions leave the circulation.

    Since housing is meant as a gil sink, the second option makes more sense.

    In terms of fairness, we have thousands(?) of homeless players competing for a Shirogane plot. Throw in the hundreds of existing homeowners into the mix would barely make a difference, especially since many homeowners will not bother trying at all.
    I don't even want to. I feel like the new Area would limit my options in terms of house design.
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  9. #18
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    This post is a joke and all it really is, is someone wanting privileges over another. Don't mind FCs, as long as OP gets privileges to a house in the new areas he'll be happy.

    Of course, he'd never admit that.
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  10. #19
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleSparrow View Post
    This post is a joke and all it really is, is someone wanting privileges over another. Don't mind FCs, as long as OP gets privileges to a house in the new areas he'll be happy.

    Of course, he'd never admit that.
    That's quite possibly the most ridiculous argument on the Internet. I can purchase a personal house and an FC house. But I would like to think of the 500 other people currently in my FC before personal and selfish desires of one person reaping the benefit over 500.

    Your argument against my argument is quite literally the exact opposite of the goal.
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    Mira Rara
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    That's quite possibly the most ridiculous argument on the Internet. I can purchase a personal house and an FC house. But I would like to think of the 500 other people currently in my FC before personal and selfish desires of one person reaping the benefit over 500.

    Your argument against my argument is quite literally the exact opposite of the goal.
    Again, if you can't get a fc house with 500 members compared to some individual which get both a personal and fc house, you probably can't get a fc house even with those restriction.
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