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  1. #11951
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    Mysterysword's Avatar
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    Siesta Fiesta
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    The living healer rezzes the other healer. One of them is attempting to longcast rez someone and the other healer is trying to keep the other party members alive. Through all of this, the chat is still blowing up with calls for that healer LB3. Both healers had more than enough time to cast it. I can count about 7 seconds that they had free time to cast it.
    As a healer, I have a personal hard rule regarding LB3: 4 or more players down = LB3, no exceptions. If one of those 4 dead is my co-healer, I double-time it.

    Also, crap like this is exactly why I never, ever, under any circumstances, ever run Trials Roulette on a 70 job now.

    I honestly cannot understand anyone who thinks it's a good idea to just stand still for 8 seconds hardcasting a ress, especially when they're the only healer left alive. What kind of sense does that even make?
    (3)
    Last edited by Mysterysword; 09-14-2017 at 07:03 PM.

  2. #11952
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirateski View Post
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    As an AST main, if I'm in Noct on an 8-man in one of the more difficult fights (such as Deltascape Savage or Royal menagerie, or even Extremes), I tend to try to keep everyone topped for those unavoidable raid attacks. I only go Noct, however, if there's a WHM or a Diurnal AST. Otherwise, I don't touch Noct in 8-mans. That being said, my general mindset for the hard content is to keep everyone as close to topped as possible. Learned that lesson the hard way with Susano and his Stormsplitter. You never know if someone is going to make a mistake. I get what you're saying about Excog...but as someone focused on keeping everyone away from critical health levels if I can help it, it's habit for me to ensure they don't get that low.

    And yes, I do actively DPS if no heals are needed...in case that point is brought up. But my job priority is healing first, then DPS if nobody needs a heal.
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  3. #11953
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    superhbman's Avatar
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    Furuiko Houraisen
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Was running Bardam's Mettle as tank.

    I wanted to relax and only pulling one mob at a time. Then the healer and Bard went ahead and pulled more mobs. I wasn't prepared and was scrambling to pick up the mobs, and they weren't helping when the Bard was focusing on one mob.
    After the clearing that first 2 packs at once, the healer had to go passive-aggressive and patronising by telling me to use defensive cooldowns on mobs. Well duh I know that, but apparently I wasn't allowed to relax.
    Feeling as though he wasn't asserting his dominance enough, he then refused to heal me and let me die.

    So sick of people like that. When I heal, I'll go along with how much the tank wants to pull. One at a time, relax. Two at a time, pop cooldowns.
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  4. #11954
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    LittleSparrow's Avatar
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    Lilora Sparrow
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by superhbman View Post
    Was running Bardam's Mettle as tank.

    I wanted to relax and only pulling one mob at a time. Then the healer and Bard went ahead and pulled more mobs. I wasn't prepared and was scrambling to pick up the mobs, and they weren't helping when the Bard was focusing on one mob.
    After the clearing that first 2 packs at once, the healer had to go passive-aggressive and patronising by telling me to use defensive cooldowns on mobs. Well duh I know that, but apparently I wasn't allowed to relax.
    Feeling as though he wasn't asserting his dominance enough, he then refused to heal me and let me die.

    So sick of people like that. When I heal, I'll go along with how much the tank wants to pull. One at a time, relax. Two at a time, pop cooldowns.
    When I'm tanking and people are pulling themselves, they can go ahead and tank it themselves. I only take aggro off the ones that focus on someone other than the puller.
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  5. #11955
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    micropanther7's Avatar
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    Peony Foxbriar
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    Louisoix
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    Monk Lv 55
    In Brayflox NM, had a tank and dps ditch because the archer had forgotten her job crystal, the tank also ditched because it was Brayflox again in the DF... fine, maybe give advice on how to keep up-to-date with your job quests, that way it will benefit not just yourself, but the party as a whole. But instead the tank decided to insult the archer's nationality, unfortunately for them the archer was bilingual The archer admitted they'd forgotten to do their job quest to become BRD and was going to do it after this run... we got another dps and tank and finished the run without incident. I guess my point is.. it's pointless getting annoyed with people in DF sometimes unless they're willing to listen, and being insulting isn't the way to go, just makes you look like the bad guy, even if you have a valid point
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  6. #11956
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    It took me up till the 10 minutes left mark in Susano NM to clear it with my trial roulette group....it was not pretty....

    Death, death everywhere.....

    Still beats the Lakshimi NM group I had last week that literally had to vote abandon because even though everyone knew what to do....over half the party would die at each viril stage....
    (2)

    "Within each of us, the potential for great power waits to be released."

  7. #11957
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by micropanther7 View Post
    In Brayflox NM, had a tank and dps ditch because the archer had forgotten her job crystal, the tank also ditched because it was Brayflox again in the DF... fine, maybe give advice on how to keep up-to-date with your job quests, that way it will benefit not just yourself, but the party as a whole. But instead the tank decided to insult the archer's nationality, unfortunately for them the archer was bilingual The archer admitted they'd forgotten to do their job quest to become BRD and was going to do it after this run... we got another dps and tank and finished the run without incident. I guess my point is.. it's pointless getting annoyed with people in DF sometimes unless they're willing to listen, and being insulting isn't the way to go, just makes you look like the bad guy, even if you have a valid point
    Now that is some petty stuff from that tank and DPS.

    When I was first leveling my Gladiator, I forgot that I had already gotten to 31 via FATEs and just shenanigans with friends and didn't do my job quest, queued up for leveling roulette, and got Brayflox NM. Once I realized it(as we loaded in), I told the party that I was willing to leave if they wanted to get someone who had done the job quests. They said not to worry, and we can give it a shot. Sure, it took a bit longer, and the healer had to focus a bit more on me than DPSing, but we cleared it with zero wipes, and without me dying. Sure wish I could have given all three of them a commendation for that interesting run.
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  8. #11958
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    Rhus's Avatar
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelani View Post
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    I done this yesterday and had a healer who was killed twice. The first was at the start hit by the dragon in corridor. They were so apologetic though and you read the horror stories here I though I'd reassure them with a "don't worry about it " Second was against the final boss. We all died after that. Again though, nobody raged and I was even thrown back and they waited on me catching up. Really good fun though and a cracking group to get. Although I didn't appreciate my fellow DPS writing me off with RIP when I got caught in the half room AOE. I survived thank you very much. Not Today! Anyway, the healer got my comm as I wanted them to know there was no hard feelings.
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    Last edited by Rhus; 09-15-2017 at 12:07 AM.

  9. #11959
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    micropanther7's Avatar
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    Peony Foxbriar
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    Louisoix
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    Monk Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Now that is some petty stuff from that tank and DPS.

    When I was first leveling my Gladiator, I forgot that I had already gotten to 31 via FATEs and just shenanigans with friends and didn't do my job quest, queued up for leveling roulette, and got Brayflox NM. Once I realized it(as we loaded in), I told the party that I was willing to leave if they wanted to get someone who had done the job quests. They said not to worry, and we can give it a shot. Sure, it took a bit longer, and the healer had to focus a bit more on me than DPSing, but we cleared it with zero wipes, and without me dying. Sure wish I could have given all three of them a commendation for that interesting run.
    I know, I thought it was pretty petty as well... I can understand if the player was level 50 and over, I'd be scratching my head in puzzlement as to why they hadn't picked a job The funny thing was, the archer was killing adds in a timely manner, dodging stuff well, and no-one died, that's a win in my book! I'm glad you got cool people in that run
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  10. #11960
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    Lyshell's Avatar
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    Tobias Lashell
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    Cactuar
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by superhbman View Post
    Was running Bardam's Mettle as tank.

    I wanted to relax and only pulling one mob at a time. Then the healer and Bard went ahead and pulled more mobs. I wasn't prepared and was scrambling to pick up the mobs, and they weren't helping when the Bard was focusing on one mob.
    After the clearing that first 2 packs at once, the healer had to go passive-aggressive and patronising by telling me to use defensive cooldowns on mobs. Well duh I know that, but apparently I wasn't allowed to relax.
    Feeling as though he wasn't asserting his dominance enough, he then refused to heal me and let me die.

    So sick of people like that. When I heal, I'll go along with how much the tank wants to pull. One at a time, relax. Two at a time, pop cooldowns.
    I guess everyone struggles with this one. I'm still trying to get my tanking legs back on track. It's been a while since I've been a main tanker. And THAT dungeon definitely seems to be a hassle, in terms of I should go all out or take it easy. When I was going all out people were not prepared or couldn't handle it and the people that could wanted more, but of course you don't know which group would be which. So now I just go at a medium pace and that's it. Middle of the road take it or leave it and if you don't like it too bad.
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