[Request] Please Suspend Housing Demolition for NA

[Krotoan]

Well, I specifically meant regarding disasters. And although I disagree with the removal of auto-demos (unless they can put in another system where housing would be available to those of us that weren't here at the start), at least you're not saying it's because a "lack of compassion."


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Just to make it clear, though; although I'm opposed to the idea of the delay, what really grinds my gears is the people saying "zOMG you're HEARTLESS if you don't agree!" I could still live with it if they did decide to delay it, just don't think it's a particularly good idea.

Irrelevant to you, in your experience. Not everyone has the presence of mind to think of their virtual world first. For those that swap to real concerns first, even 5 minutes of logging into a game doesn't even cross their minds.

Cat 5 landing on Cuba. then it worked up florida. I am not only advocating for the U.S.A. Theres a few places that got hit.


There are parts of each state that were untouched, true. But as I also said, those are big states. It's not an insignificant part of each state that was affected. Large swaths were evacuated. The destruction wasn't minimal and there were also people who took the opportunity to loot which did just as much damage as the storm.

I am not arguing for shirogane, though I can concede you may read it that way. October is far away and as long as nothing more happens.. (one more hurricane out there *knock on wood*) they SHOULD be back on track soon. Or at least the majority should be underway. But some places were hit hard, and some non hurricane disasters are still going : http://projects.oregonlive.com/wildf...4.190/-120.700 . It has been a really shitty month for a lot of people. I don't want people to miss out of the new area because they needed to deal with acts of god (or teenagers with matches). BUT I get that the rest of the world has been waiting too. My main argument is for the housing demo delay, its a small thing that would mean one less worry for a lot of people.

Knowing what to do, and the actual process's timetable aren't very well correlated. Sure you know how to clean up , but the process of hauling away debris, cleaning up flooding damage and rebuilding has time constraints and manpower constraints. When you get a few cities worth of destruction to deal with, resources get stretched thin. I work for a major utility in my state, after we had a hurricane blow through (minor one) , some people were without power for weeks simply because there weren't enough workers to get to it all quickly enough.

I'm surprised at the amount of people arguing against such a small thing that would affect them so very little (demo pause).

So... who decides which natural catastrophy or even war and destruction qualifies for a pause in auto demolition? If something like this happens in a third world country, do the timers stop? There's constant war in the Middle East and people lose homes all the time due to it, some may even be players. Do we stop it for them too? Or is it only convenient to stop it when it's Japan and USA? There were fires in Europe this past summer too, my own country's coast was in flames and towns were almost wiped out because of it, they're still fighting some of the fires there. Where was the pause then? Or is the rest of the world not important enough because we don't have as many players as Japan and NA do?

I'm sorry that the hurricane hit you, and that you have fires on the other side of the country, but... like... hurricanes happen every year, it's called hurricane season for a reason. Do we stop the timer every year because something somewhere could inconvenience someone? If we do that, then the timers would never even start, if we would pause it for every single disaster that hits anywhere in the world. If there's an earthquake in South America, which doesn't have as many players as NA, do we stop it then or would the people in NA not like that?

I doubt very much that anyone in the war torn parts of the middle east has time or money to play video games or that they could imagine something frivolous like NOT worrying about not getting shot or where they're going to get food from tomorrow.

Where was the pause? Did you post a thread asking for it? Did people argue against it if you did? Those people are jerks! I would have thrown my vote in for you wholeheartedly.

Why in the world would I be opposed to halting such a small thing for other countries/areas? GO AHEAD, but what most of us in this thread are suggesting is a gesture from SE to the people affected by recent unusually large disasters hitting many areas at once. The rest of us lose very little if all they do is pause the Demo timer. I understand the outcry at the suggestion of delaying shirogane, though I feel that is a little selfish to argue AGAINST, I don't expect people to be all that altruistic (and nobody HAS to be) so I wasn't surprised at that.

Do you want them to quantify the affected player limit for pausing the demo timer? Do you want to hear "sorry, you're not part of japan so no!". This isn't about hard numbers or passing a threshold of some type, it's about suggesting a gesture of kindness to people in a time of need while also spending very little actual money and time on it. It's a small thing that would mean something to these people.


Shit does happen everyday to many people, this doesn't mean we should never do anything about it. Someone suggested a nice thing and you wonder why people get a little prickly when you argue that you didn't get your bit, so they shouldn't get theirs?

[Aronys]

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Why do westerners think that anyone who isn't in a first world country is probably struggling to find food? What arrogance. I've been through a war, and I still played games.

Again, who decides when a distaster is big enough for a demo timer pause, and when it's not? A gesture is nice. But if they do one gesture, then everyone who have any hardships could expect that kind of gesture. Will they get it? Records say no. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the timers did stop for NA players, as Japan loves USA. On the other hand, if something happens somewhere else, I wouldn't bet on anything of the sort to happen. I may come off as salty or even cynical, but I'm speaking from experience. And records do show that kind of attitude towards the rest of the world. Now, imagine if the hurricane missed USA, but still wrecked the Carribbean. Would this thread exist? Of course not. Because people in those places don't have a sense of entitlement, as they're used to big countries not really caring about them. Heck, your own Puerto Rico got slammed last week and it took you guys until the hurricane reached Florida to start this thread. FYI, Puerto Rico is USA. So yeah, doubt there would be a thread if it was only Puerto Rico.

[RainesS]

Shit does happen everyday to many people, this doesn't mean we should never do anything about it. Someone suggested a nice thing and you wonder why people get a little prickly when you argue that you didn't get your bit, so they shouldn't get theirs?

Shit happens yes. Why not just go on with your life? No sane person will worry about their virtual houses when they are struck by disaster. Ingame houses are just bunch of pixels. Why bother? Real life is more important. And one thing to note, I don't own a house and not planning to get one, I'm just not overly attached to this game. Houses, glamours? Not interested. I'm just confused people make big deal of virtual houses.

[Krotoan]

Shit happens yes. Why not just go on with your life? No sane person will worry about their virtual houses when they are struck by disaster. Ingame houses are just bunch of pixels. Why bother? Real life is more important. And one thing to note, I don't own a house and not planning to get one, I'm just not overly attached to this game. Houses, glamours? Not interested. I'm just confused people make big deal of virtual houses.

Why do anything ? why keep eating, you'll just need food again! WHY DO YOU DO ANYTHING FOR ENJOYMENT!?!?


I'll say it for the .. 5th time this thread, its NOT about it being important, it's a little gesture to do SOMETHING for those affected. Nobody who's been heavily affected by these storms or the fire cares right now if their virtual properties are down. I'm betting it's the last thing on their minds. But when they come back in a month, maybe 2, wouldn't it be nice if their stuff was as they left it so at least something they enjoy didn't get wrecked?

Why do westerners think that anyone who isn't in a first world country is probably struggling to find food? What arrogance. I've been through a war, and I still played games.

Again, who decides when a distaster is big enough for a demo timer pause, and when it's not? A gesture is nice. But if they do one gesture, then everyone who have any hardships could expect that kind of gesture. Will they get it? Records say no. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the timers did stop for NA players, as Japan loves USA. On the other hand, if something happens somewhere else, I wouldn't bet on anything of the sort to happen. I may come off as salty or even cynical, but I'm speaking from experience. And records do show that kind of attitude towards the rest of the world. Now, imagine if the hurricane missed USA, but still wrecked the Carribbean. Would this thread exist? Of course not. Because people in those places don't have a sense of entitlement, as they're used to big countries not really caring about them. Heck, your own Puerto Rico got slammed last week and it took you guys until the hurricane reached Florida to start this thread. FYI, Puerto Rico is USA. So yeah, doubt there would be a thread if it was only Puerto Rico.

Do you live in the middle east? I don't. I hope I NEVER know what it's like. But what I have to go on are stories from my friends in the military and those who do contract work in those countries. They tell me it's a daily struggle to just get by for many locals. You know what I'm almost never going to have to worry about? Getting murdered for my religious beliefs or my sexual orientation. I have so many first world problems and none of them matter. All I have to go on is 2nd hand stories so I apologize if I offended someone who's actually been in a war. It's not arrogance, it's the fortune of not knowing. Have a little understanding on both sides. Sounds like you have some chips on your shoulder about being left out. I don't feel entitled. Once again I don't expect ANYTHING to happen. But would it not be nice if we could do something? This is a request. Not a demand or a whine. A request. I don't think we deserve this any more than any other group, but hey, why not ask? You need to ask for things to happen. To expect them to just happen because you want them to happen and then act "salty" when other people even ask for them is entitlement.

[RainesS]

[QUOTE=Krotoan;4401382]Why do anything ? why keep eating, you'll just need food again! WHY DO YOU DO ANYTHING FOR ENJOYMENT!?!?

But when they come back in a month, maybe 2, wouldn't it be nice if their stuff was as they left it so at least something they enjoy didn't get wrecked?

Whoa, easy there dude. Eating is different from losing one virtual house. Can you live if you don't eat? Prob no. Will you die if you lose ingame house in rl? Positively no. You lose your ingame house and suddenly you can't enjoy this game anymore? Are you enjoying the houses or other in game activities? Can't enjoy this game? Find another thing that you enjoy. It's just a game, take it easy, the world will not end even if all the houses get wrecked at next calamity by the time the game ends its service.

[Aronys]

Do you live in the middle east?

No, but close enough and we had a war 20 years ago. Eastern Europe and we're always kinda forgotten by everyone lol. Like right now in the past 24 hours so much rain fell in my country that we're having massive floods, bridges are gone, houses are underwater and all, record breaking floods that haven't been seen since the 80s, yet all we got in the international news was a footnote on one of lesser known news sites. If the timer does stop, maybe we can stop it like once a year for everyone. A symbolic gesture. Christmas time would be nice, actually.

[Krotoan]

No, but close enough and we had a war 20 years ago. Eastern Europe and we're always kinda forgotten by everyone lol. Like right now in the past 24 hours so much rain fell in my country that we're having massive floods, bridges are gone, houses are underwater and all, record breaking floods that haven't been seen since the 80s, yet all we got in the international news was a footnote on one of lesser known news sites. If the timer does stop, maybe we can stop it like once a year for everyone. A symbolic gesture. Christmas time would be nice, actually.

This would be awesome if it would stop during times people usually go to visit family. I am sorry you are having horrendous weather, I'm all for spreading awareness since the news over here likes to pick and choose the most "sensational" stories. I'll check international news for details of the flooding.