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  1. #71
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    If SE does what some in this thread suggest, the autodemos will loose all value and meaning as it would provide precedent to halt them every time a disaster strikes somewhere in the world. We have to understand that SE is a Japanese company and that is the ONLY reason why they suspended it in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami.
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    Japan set the precedent for helping COUNTRIES in crisis, not states. Also, a great deal of people seem to be forgetting that at the time Japan had their earthquake, we didn't have NA data centers, they were in Japan. So yes; if the country in which the servers of your game are being held, it might behoove you to suspend something that affected an entire COUNTRY'S worth of players. SE's numbers said that FFXIV has just over 10 million players; lets give an arbitrary number value to the amount of people playing in NA's affected areas. Let's high ball it and say 250 thousand people. So 2.5% of ALL the accounts are affected by disasters; now tell me... Should the other 97.5%'s opportunity to claim a house in a game they enjoy because, for lack of better phrasing... "Life happened." The utilitarian in me says... NO.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seisha View Post
    If SE does what some in this thread suggest, the autodemos will loose all value and meaning as it would provide precedent to halt them every time a disaster strikes somewhere in the world. We have to understand that SE is a Japanese company and that is the ONLY reason why they suspended it in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami.
    Honestly, that's the only true grounds behind them not doing it. There's not much more than needs to be understood. Texas and Florida are not "home turf" so to speak. IMO, that's perfectly fine too. Your own is going to be more important than the outside. It's the exact reason why Mexico had to rescind their pledge to help Texas, in light of the earthquake that hit them right after. Home turf is always going to (rightfully) get priority, or in this case, special treatment/aid. In the end, it doesn't matter if they do it or they don't.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiBeau View Post
    Japan set the precedent for helping COUNTRIES in crisis, not states..
    You seem to think the entire Japan was devastated, it was not, it was just Kumamoto, which is basically a state (prefecture).

    Also last year we had NA data centers, they were located in Canada.

    The utilitarian in you should get more informed.
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  5. #75
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    Agreed!! o/
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    I think that the auto-demo should just go away. SE claims this game is supposed to be casual friendly, yet enforce mandatory logins. Doesn't make sense that if someone doesn't log in time, to make it so there is no reason to come back.

    Probably a good idea for SE to just figure out how to make more housing/inventory.

    As for the new housing, release half on time, then the other half 3 months later.
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    Eh fair enough the previous servers for the EU and NA were located in Montreal, Canada.
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    You guys really should think about your priorities, all the people here will lose their house later anyway when the game shut down in future. In the end, it's just a game, nothing will last forever. New housing? Meh, I don't even care, just a bunch of pixel anyway, it's not like the game will be around until sometime in the future.
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    Honestly, I'm pretty ambivalent towards the whole thing. Maybe I just got too used to getting hit by hurricanes to be shocked at the damage that Irma is wreaking.

    Anyway, I don't think it's a big deal if they don't suspend the housing demolition for this. In fact, part of me doesn't want that to happen because I feel like the reasoning "they did it for the earthquake in Japan, so they should do the same for this stuff in NA" kinda perverts what I would think of as a charitable act.

    And the whole empathy, understanding and sharing the feelings of another, thing going on in this topic strikes me as somewhat ironic. Now everyone's experience may differ, but when I was out of power for weeks after a hurricane, I really wasn't worried about virtual doodads or games in general so much as the immediate need for food, water and repairing the general destruction that happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You know what would be really nice for some people who lost their houses/pets/belongings/loved ones in huge storms and fires? Coming back to the one thing they enjoy spending time on and not finding that since they DID have to worry about boarding up windows, making sure they had enough food and supplies to survive if they got isolated with no power or water, moving their families to another location and keeping them calm and taken care of that someone has DEMO'D their hard won virtual house they get enjoyment out of.

    NOBODY is putting virtual real estate above actual homes, the sentiment here Mr/Mrs/Ms "cold calculating logic" is that these people are all going through hard times and it'd be nice if we took one thing off their minds that really doesn't affect anyone else.

    you say the virtual world doesn't matter then suggest they take time out of their disaster preparations to check in and make sure that their virtual obligations are taken care of too, so you're not only insensitive, but counter your own arguments. Some people have walked back to their properties after the storms/fires and found NOTHING left, you really think the first thing they're gonna think of is: "oh better find a computer and an internet connection to go renew my demo timer". It's not: storm over , go home and login. You go back to where your home WAS, and figure out whether you rebuild or relocate.

    This isn't "the feels" , this is compassion and doing what little can be done by strangers to make their lives an infinitesimal bit less troublesome.

    Your post implies you either have never been through a disaster or are a sociopath. You suggest disaster victims are LAZY, then congratulate yourself for seeing "the truth" with a "/slowclap".
    +1, do not forget this did it for japan, so not doing it shows a favoritism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seisha View Post
    If SE does what some in this thread suggest, the autodemos will loose all value and meaning as it would provide precedent to halt them every time a disaster strikes somewhere in the world. We have to understand that SE is a Japanese company and that is the ONLY reason why they suspended it in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami.
    auto demos do not hold value. In fact it was not supposed to be in the game to begin with. They only did it because of the extreme shortage, and yoshi P even said they where never planning to have such a system. Plus they paused the auto demo already for a disaster in japan, further showing your point makes no sense.
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