[Request] Please Suspend Housing Demolition for NA

[Deviant1]

I think that the auto-demo should just go away. SE claims this game is supposed to be casual friendly, yet enforce mandatory logins. Doesn't make sense that if someone doesn't log in time, to make it so there is no reason to come back.

Probably a good idea for SE to just figure out how to make more housing/inventory.

As for the new housing, release half on time, then the other half 3 months later.

[AmiBeau]

Eh fair enough the previous servers for the EU and NA were located in Montreal, Canada.

[RainesS]

You guys really should think about your priorities, all the people here will lose their house later anyway when the game shut down in future. In the end, it's just a game, nothing will last forever. New housing? Meh, I don't even care, just a bunch of pixel anyway, it's not like the game will be around until sometime in the future.

[Mutemutt]

Honestly, I'm pretty ambivalent towards the whole thing. Maybe I just got too used to getting hit by hurricanes to be shocked at the damage that Irma is wreaking.

Anyway, I don't think it's a big deal if they don't suspend the housing demolition for this. In fact, part of me doesn't want that to happen because I feel like the reasoning "they did it for the earthquake in Japan, so they should do the same for this stuff in NA" kinda perverts what I would think of as a charitable act.

And the whole empathy, understanding and sharing the feelings of another, thing going on in this topic strikes me as somewhat ironic. Now everyone's experience may differ, but when I was out of power for weeks after a hurricane, I really wasn't worried about virtual doodads or games in general so much as the immediate need for food, water and repairing the general destruction that happened.

[ShadowHunterrX]

It's not a bad idea , only the fact everywhere in the world are nature disaters every month. In another words do they need to do this every time ?

I think the last thing victims are worried about is there ingame houses. Some lost everything and need to build up from zero. People are more busy to get there feet on the ground and helping friends and family.

In my eyes some people here only using the storm as a excuse to leave the game and not lose there house. Its kinda sickening.

[Sarteck]

Just a thought, for those trying to use the "they did it for Japan" justification.

Japan had no prior warning for the earthquake. Kind of makes it a huge difference. After all, people could actually log on prior to Harvey or Irma. It's not as if the news channels weren't talking about each of them a full week before they actually hit.

[Krotoan]

Just a thought, for those trying to use the "they did it for Japan" justification.

Japan had no prior warning for the earthquake. Kind of makes it a huge difference. After all, people could actually log on prior to Harvey or Irma. It's not as if the news channels weren't talking about each of them a full week before they actually hit.

I'm going to answer as if you just are missing some crucial information here because as you said later.. you aren't lacking compassion.

Hurricane preparation: Board up windows. Secure loose belongings. Stock enough non perishable food and water for 2-4 weeks (and for your pets if you have them). Make sure you have first aid and all medicines for 6 weeks. Fill vehicle gas tanks. Make sure you have clean and temperature appropriate clothes and packable bedding. Check evacuation plans and make sure everyone in your family is aware of them as well. Have a plan in case you get separated. stock up on batteries and a portable radio.
Nobody hears that there is a hurricane coming and immediately thinks they better login to their game to reset the house timer.

We are suggesting, that since these disasters are more than Statewide (and florida is a pretty darn big state, along with Cuba and Texas) in highly populated areas, that some consideration to pausing this mechanic to allow these people something nice to come back to.

YES, it would be nice if there were pauses in this mechanic everytime a category 5 hurricane makes landfall in a densely populated area, not to mention the huge wildfires on the east coast. I understand if they can't. I also understand people don't want to wait for shirogane (totally get it, I'm excited too). But telling people they should have planned for this and regardless of their losses you still want your chance at a virtual house? That's pretty cold don't you think?


I have no stake here, I own a house but am in NO danger currently of losing access to it and have payed for my sub well into the next year. I own multiple computers and have contacts all over the place I could utilize to make sure I have access.

This is something nice that could be done for these people, I'm surprised people are against it.

[Sarteck]

To auto-demos? All the time.

Well, I specifically meant regarding disasters. And although I disagree with the removal of auto-demos (unless they can put in another system where housing would be available to those of us that weren't here at the start), at least you're not saying it's because a "lack of compassion."

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Preparation: I grew up in Florida. Been there, done that. We still had more than 5 minutes of spare time before, during, and after prep. This argument is irrelevant.

Scope: Sorry, but I'm not quite sure you know what you are talking about here. Hell, even some of my FC members *in* Florida were online last night. It's QUITE localized, certainly not statewide. The Harvey destruction was also quite localized.

Category: You do realize that it made landfall as a Cat 4 and was quickly downgraded to Cat 3, right? Just saying, because you seem to have worded it as if it hit as a Cat 5.

"Telling people they should have planned for this..."--I think this is arguing for the delay of Shirogane, not the delay of auto-demolish, so I don't see the relevance. But I'll address it anyways--by the time 4.1 comes out, I'm quite certain that the overwhelming majority of the chaos caused by the storm will be addressed in one fashion or another. Having lived through quite a few hurricanes myself, I'd be surprised if Florida suddenly went backwards and didn't realize how to deal with the aftermath. Therefore, I would have to say "No, I don't think it's cold at all."

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Just to make it clear, though; although I'm opposed to the idea of the delay, what really grinds my gears is the people saying "zOMG you're HEARTLESS if you don't agree!" I could still live with it if they did decide to delay it, just don't think it's a particularly good idea.

[Krotoan]

Well, I specifically meant regarding disasters. And although I disagree with the removal of auto-demos (unless they can put in another system where housing would be available to those of us that weren't here at the start), at least you're not saying it's because a "lack of compassion."


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Just to make it clear, though; although I'm opposed to the idea of the delay, what really grinds my gears is the people saying "zOMG you're HEARTLESS if you don't agree!" I could still live with it if they did decide to delay it, just don't think it's a particularly good idea.

Irrelevant to you, in your experience. Not everyone has the presence of mind to think of their virtual world first. For those that swap to real concerns first, even 5 minutes of logging into a game doesn't even cross their minds.

Cat 5 landing on Cuba. then it worked up florida. I am not only advocating for the U.S.A. Theres a few places that got hit.


There are parts of each state that were untouched, true. But as I also said, those are big states. It's not an insignificant part of each state that was affected. Large swaths were evacuated. The destruction wasn't minimal and there were also people who took the opportunity to loot which did just as much damage as the storm.

I am not arguing for shirogane, though I can concede you may read it that way. October is far away and as long as nothing more happens.. (one more hurricane out there *knock on wood*) they SHOULD be back on track soon. Or at least the majority should be underway. But some places were hit hard, and some non hurricane disasters are still going : http://projects.oregonlive.com/wildf...4.190/-120.700 . It has been a really shitty month for a lot of people. I don't want people to miss out of the new area because they needed to deal with acts of god (or teenagers with matches). BUT I get that the rest of the world has been waiting too. My main argument is for the housing demo delay, its a small thing that would mean one less worry for a lot of people.

Knowing what to do, and the actual process's timetable aren't very well correlated. Sure you know how to clean up , but the process of hauling away debris, cleaning up flooding damage and rebuilding has time constraints and manpower constraints. When you get a few cities worth of destruction to deal with, resources get stretched thin. I work for a major utility in my state, after we had a hurricane blow through (minor one) , some people were without power for weeks simply because there weren't enough workers to get to it all quickly enough.

I'm surprised at the amount of people arguing against such a small thing that would affect them so very little (demo pause).

So... who decides which natural catastrophy or even war and destruction qualifies for a pause in auto demolition? If something like this happens in a third world country, do the timers stop? There's constant war in the Middle East and people lose homes all the time due to it, some may even be players. Do we stop it for them too? Or is it only convenient to stop it when it's Japan and USA? There were fires in Europe this past summer too, my own country's coast was in flames and towns were almost wiped out because of it, they're still fighting some of the fires there. Where was the pause then? Or is the rest of the world not important enough because we don't have as many players as Japan and NA do?

I'm sorry that the hurricane hit you, and that you have fires on the other side of the country, but... like... hurricanes happen every year, it's called hurricane season for a reason. Do we stop the timer every year because something somewhere could inconvenience someone? If we do that, then the timers would never even start, if we would pause it for every single disaster that hits anywhere in the world. If there's an earthquake in South America, which doesn't have as many players as NA, do we stop it then or would the people in NA not like that?

I doubt very much that anyone in the war torn parts of the middle east has time or money to play video games or that they could imagine something frivolous like NOT worrying about not getting shot or where they're going to get food from tomorrow.

Where was the pause? Did you post a thread asking for it? Did people argue against it if you did? Those people are jerks! I would have thrown my vote in for you wholeheartedly.

Why in the world would I be opposed to halting such a small thing for other countries/areas? GO AHEAD, but what most of us in this thread are suggesting is a gesture from SE to the people affected by recent unusually large disasters hitting many areas at once. The rest of us lose very little if all they do is pause the Demo timer. I understand the outcry at the suggestion of delaying shirogane, though I feel that is a little selfish to argue AGAINST, I don't expect people to be all that altruistic (and nobody HAS to be) so I wasn't surprised at that.

Do you want them to quantify the affected player limit for pausing the demo timer? Do you want to hear "sorry, you're not part of japan so no!". This isn't about hard numbers or passing a threshold of some type, it's about suggesting a gesture of kindness to people in a time of need while also spending very little actual money and time on it. It's a small thing that would mean something to these people.


Shit does happen everyday to many people, this doesn't mean we should never do anything about it. Someone suggested a nice thing and you wonder why people get a little prickly when you argue that you didn't get your bit, so they shouldn't get theirs?