Faking disconnects

[Aster_E]

I definitely don't mind waiting 5-10 minutes. I understand a random 90k can happen--it's done so to me more times than I care to count--and I know that some people also try to fake DCing in the hopes that they're kicked for that. If they want to "Fake DC" and only take 3-4 minutes to come back, well, then I hope they like the immediate other option of leaving the duty on their own.

Of course, on the other hand, I try not to be so bad that I drive anyone to fake a disconnect. <_<

[Ilyrian]

prancing about on my moral high horse.

That did make me smile - will have to use in a sentence today.

[Cenerae]

I never understood the need to 'fake dc' in the first place.

Just man up and take the penalty on the nose if you don't want to be in the dungeon, 'fake dcing' is being rude to everyone else in the group for no good reason. Even if you hated everyone else in the group, you could always blacklist them to help prevent the rare chance of ever seeing any of them again.

And if your logic behind it is 'I'm going to do something else for 30 minutes and then come back' then you really might as well have just dropped in the first place.

[KisaiTenshi]

I never understood the need to 'fake dc' in the first place.

Botters and griefers will do it to speed up their profiting,or harassment.

Under optimal conditions, DC'ing should actually penalize the player at the data center select screen. You all know about the 90K errors. The server could just push an explicit error that forces them to either log back into the world they are still logged into and continue playing, or wait 30 minutes.

[Jeykama]

Should just cause a DF strike if you get kicked from duty, same thing that stacks up if you withdraw from a DF queue pop, since it's the same effect whether it's a real 90k or fake - you're wasting the time of the pugs in queue.

If it's a real 90k or a real situation to withdraw, then it's not a huge penalty unless you've been constantly 90king/withdrawing all day - at which point you should fix your internet or whatever situation caused you to constantly withdraw from queue instead of continuing to queue. If you constantly get kicked from duties you should probably reflect on yourself why it's happening.

If it's a serial faker then they'd have requeue penalties until the next day so whatever.

[hynaku]

Should just cause a DF strike if you get kicked from duty, same thing that stacks up if you withdraw from a DF queue pop, since it's the same effect whether it's a real 90k or fake - you're wasting the time of the pugs in queue.

If it's a real 90k or a real situation to withdraw, then it's not a huge penalty unless you've been constantly 90king/withdrawing all day - at which point you should fix your internet or whatever situation caused you to constantly withdraw from queue instead of continuing to queue. If you constantly get kicked from duties you should probably reflect on yourself why it's happening.

If it's a serial faker then they'd have requeue penalties until the next day so whatever.

I hope you start getting 90k errors every few minutes and then see what other players have to put up with. Before you blame it on there internet. Massive Disconnects they said is from ddos attacks so how is that the players fault.

[Zfz]

You don't always get massive disconnects due to DDoS attacks all year round, do you? When something like that happens, it's more than reasonable to halt the DF penalty count server-wide, just like how certain measures are put in place during expansion launches to manage traffic.

I used to get frequent 90k disconnects back in 2.3 or 2.4 when our connecting submarine cable was damaged. What did I do? I stayed out of DF instead of trying my luck and wasting everyone's time even after knowing that my connection is unstable. If you have an unstable connection, you need to fix it or get your ISP to fix it.

[alimdia]

You don't always get massive disconnects due to DDoS attacks all year round, do you? When something like that happens, it's more than reasonable to halt the DF penalty count server-wide, just like how certain measures are put in place during expansion launches to manage traffic.

By the time the devs realize there's an issue and halt the penalties hundreds of people across all 60+ servers will be unfairly affected, not to mention network issues aren't always related to DDoS or even related to SE at all.

These forums never cease to amaze me with the endless obsession with seeing other people being punished for every small thing, it's like the enjoyment of some people depends on other people being punished.

It's a matter of time before someone asks for perma bans if you don't say hi in a dungeon.

[akaneakki]

Botters and griefers will do it to speed up their profiting,or harassment.

Under optimal conditions, DC'ing should actually penalize the player at the data center select screen. You all know about the 90K errors. The server could just push an explicit error that forces them to either log back into the world they are still logged into and continue playing, or wait 30 minutes.

Lol this is idea is bad.

[Jeykama]

I hope you start getting 90k errors every few minutes and then see what other players have to put up with. Before you blame it on there internet. Massive Disconnects they said is from ddos attacks so how is that the players fault.

DDoS attacks don't happen every single day. Neither do internet issues. And if I was disconnecting like crazy I would be taking my own advice and not be queueing for instances.

If you're legitimately disconnecting that much, regardless of the cause you shouldn't be queuing. Obvious answer. Same answer if the servers are being unstable for whatever reason, avoid queuing. It doesn't take a genius to figure out when servers are unstable.

At any rate, I only suggested to incur a DF strike if you were kicked for whatever reason, not just because of a disconnect. You can report abusive kicks if you felt you didn't deserve it, but if you were offline/afk long enough it's not really any contest.