Yea, I'm done.

[Bloodb]

400 matches, 400 whole matches of ranked (Or close to it if unranked counts) and I'm only at 1515. I've pushed myself constantly last month to the 1700s only to be brought down back into where I am -three- times because of the "unique" situation of trying to push rank in this game's pvp system. It was on this day that I'm truely giving up on pvp in this game as a whole, dispite just how -badly- I want that top 100 armor having to suffer repeatedly in this system just isn't worth it.

428 Matches played I quit. Just like you I'm in platinum and just like you the highest i've got was 1776.
About this Netcode thing being complained about I never got disconnected even once in all my matches. I've seen others.
But I've got great internet. One disconnect per year if that.

[LittleSparrow]

How does wintrading even work?

[Cynric]

How does wintrading even work?

For the sake of not going into too much detail. One side chooses to lose/dc on purpose for the sake of another, would be a catch all definition for it.

[Magic-Mal]

I too was like you OP. I was stuck in the 1,700s for weeks it felt like. No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to break 1,800. In my frustrations I tried learning how to play tank mid platinum and Monk, mid platinum. All because as BRD I was afraid I wouldn't make Diamond with the 30min-45min queues as Bard. I ended up dropping down below 1,700 then decided.. Okay, I have to be BRD, this isn't working. I went BRD and slowly but surely I got my way back up to the 1,700s. With luck I'll say, I made it to 1,900s in one lucky healer farm night. Then I saw the promos! Those were actually very difficult and exciting too. But it waa all chance in the end.

I made it to Diamond and I was very proud. Due to later poor decisions and multiple, multiple chance encounters with a healer I dare not mention the name of, I lost my Diamond and never got it back.

The point is lol, try, try, and try again. It sucks badly and it's aggravating but it'll come along eventually. That's just how it is. Especially as a range DPS. And don't ever, EVER try a new class mid rank. Don't be a Malina. Remember what Malina says.

[Gallus]

I'm at 2k, but yes, the pvp is very bad.

The issues I see with this pvp:

1 - Long queues (probably can't be solved due to lack of players)

2 - Players matched level is awufully big, making TOO many matches impossible to win when the RNG decides you are fine with a silver rank healer against a platinum one. You can go by with a mediocre dps, you can even go by with an average tank. A bad healer is instalose. In this regard, the dps carry potential (and to a certain extent the tank) is minimal. There's a reason 90% of the top 100 players main heal. This creates a huge element of frustation among players who go dps, which are blatantly walled past 1500 elo (unfairly many times).

3 - Even when matches are even (which fortunately happens from time to time), the medal system screws everything up, making it so that these matches are more often than not decided by someone wrongly picking a bunch of medals at a given time more than anything else.

4 - Point 3 is absolutely terrible because apparently they want the pvp to involve some "strategy", but they've destroyed the chat at the same time. How the hell do you even tell your team, for example, to NOT pick medals?


All in all, this PVP is a very frustrating and unfair experience unless you happen to main heal and are good at it.

[Krolja]

We voice our frustrations and our experiences and it continues to feel like it falls on deaf ears. I really want to enjoy PvP in this game, but like your first point...the DPS queues are INSANE. I often have to wait 15-30 minutes and then your second point happens. The game drops a Plat healer on the other team and decides my Silver healer can compete. I don't know the fixes at this point, but SE really needs to do something quick. I feel like the PvP somehow manages to maintain it's tiny bit of life support, but even that is failing.

[Synestra]

4 - Point 3 is absolutely terrible because apparently they want the pvp to involve some "strategy", but they've destroyed the chat at the same time. How the hell do you even tell your team, for example, to NOT pick medals?

To be honest that heavy medal debuff was main reason i never become interested in feast as this is first arena mode i have played where you get "penalized" for playing right. I understand why it is there and maybe some people like it but i preferred old Fold that was just pure TDM only problem with that was insane que times and unbalanced jobs but that was back in lvl50 and things have changed a lot since then.

[Gallus]

Let's not forget that the medal system is rather complex too, like you are put into situations that most people have no idea how to proceed.
Let me put you an example. You are playing as a tank, their melee dies, you pick their medals, you are at 1 vulne. Their melee comes back, but now your focus is their ranged and you manage to kill him/her too. As you all know, killing a different target than the one it died previously makes you jump from 1 to 4 vulnerabilities as a tank, which is very nasty. Problem is DPS are too much in tunnel vision mode that they either don't notice they should pick those medals (would put them at 1 vulne) or are directly unaware about how the system works altogether...but all in all, this results in you, as a tank, having 2 choices:

1 - Let the medals go back to the enemy team (probably better than stacking 4 vulnes).
2 - Take the medals, stack 4 vulnes, watch your healer inititally cry, and overall turn the entire match into a "pass the hot potato" xD because those 4 vulnes are like a curse that will turn the tankyness of anyone who picks them into cigarette rolling paper.

So yeah...

[Mirch]

a strategy would be kill the same person 3 times in a row

[Giglamesh]

Ive had similar experiences being stuck at the same rating.

First, I stopped obsessing about the bad healers. Law of averages balance everything out and for every game we lose because of a bad healer, I win because the other team has the same bad healer.

If you lose a few matches in a row.... Take a break. The gamblers mentality can crush your rating if you're in a bad queue circle of bad players.

And lastly, review if there were things you could've done to win the last match you lost. There are usually little mistakes over the course of the match that lead to a loss. For instance, grabbing too many medals near the end, or using melee limit break too early and getting stunned. Learning to bait the stun near end of game and use limit break.

I\\'ve had a much higher win rate since limiting my mistakes and not stressing about my healer. And if I get the same bad healer back to back, i take a break so I don\\'t get stuck with them every match.