Why do so many statics seem to be missing healers? What can be done to solve this?

[Zojha]

You simply cannot ignore the change in the community over recent years.

You can and should, because even if it's true and such a change has happened, it's not only relevant to healers in particular, but to every role. In fact, an unwillingness to teach and eagerness to ditch those struggling would hurt DPS players a lot more since they're much easier to kick and replace, making the tolerance of failure much lower. Yet, for some reason, they don't even get mentioned.

[Mirateski]

Healing 3s and 4s is an absolute nightmare, according to the healers in my static, and with the ridiculous amounts of damage going out, I believe them.

I've healed everything up to 1s inclusive. It's very dependent on the group how hard your role is - but if people mess up and die, they blame the healers regardless? It seems unfair.

Also, a lot of healers who pug have to deal with absolute nightmare tanks. My static's sch pugged 3s one week and had a pld eat every crit hit without a cd in swordoath. They died like six freaking times. Would YOU want to risk healing that nightmare?

[QT_Melon]

Also, a lot of healers who pug have to deal with absolute nightmare tanks. My static's sch pugged 3s one week and had a pld eat every crit hit without a cd in swordoath. They died like six freaking times. Would YOU want to risk healing that nightmare?

Ok, so everyone should throw the baby out, the bathwater is obviously bad.

[Kabzy]

There are really only a couple things I can think about: make leveling easier, make healers more appealing, and reduce choice constraints like the dread of doubling up.

Please no!

Up until the level 65 dungeon, healers can get away with so much that it's borderline pathetic. It should be no surprise that newbies complained about it so much and have no clue how to perform in raid scenarios. Every job has it's downsides when played sub-optimal, healers just happen to cause deaths, which are a lot more noticeable.

That's not to say that the role has it worst, tanks can also cause deaths by losing aggro and DPS messing up a single rotation can lead to 1% wipes (we've all been there ;_; ).

In my opinion, healing became a lot less engaging since 4.x hit and that could very well be a reason to why some of the better healers changed roles. Skills like Cleric Stance were actually enjoyed by a lot of players, but because we had to make the game noob friendly, we now have a much more boring time in raids where there's still not much to actually heal (with the exception of O4s). Healing can be tough sometimes, but I also think it's the most rewarding, and frankly we need these 'harder' dungeons to weed out those who can't handle it.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Healers/Tanks are scared of signing up for these hyper critical no second chance, no helping hand groups.

Is this truly the case or have people simply become too sensitive? I never tanked before FFXIV but opted to give it a go around 3.3-ish. Dark Knight was my first tank, which I leveled exclusively through FATEs due to the Yokai watch event. I read my tooktips, went through a handful of guides on Youtube and queued into roulettes. Some mistakes were made, especially a particularly bad Darkhold run but I dusted myself and kept going. I only ever received "hate" when I eventually took a healer into Sephirot EX when a friend slapped together a 4am farm party on a fight I hadn't done in months. They weren't even aggressive, so much as understandably frustrated. I got over it pretty quick and kept going. The problem often stems from people either being too nervous as tanks are pseudo-leaders or can't handle criticism. This whole notion of widespread kicks is extremely overblown.

My static's sch pugged 3s one week and had a pld eat every crit hit without a cd in swordoath. They died like six freaking times. Would YOU want to risk healing that nightmare?

Sure. I find it fun, though I'd be telling that PLD to use a cooldown and kicking them if they didn't.

[era1Ne]

This is a big issue. I remember it took me a bit longer to get to 70 than most hardcore raiders, that seemed to all hit 70 on week one. By the time I was fully 310 geared and ready for "the next step" everyone was already demanding I knew every encounter if I wanted to join the raiding game. Learning groups were mostly composed of rejects without patience that would quit after a 2 failures.

In my case, I said to hell with it all, I just now logging in to get my weekly cap tomes, my detlascape normal rewards of the week, and then spend the rest of the week playing other games. It is not the game to blame, it's the community.

I've experienced this myself with ex primals in the early days and i've never blamed the community for this, because at the end of the day, everyone should have the right to choose the people he wants to play with in pf. For instance, if you want to farm and do a farm group, you'd expect them to be able to farm the content and therefore you won't take new players with you. For statics this is the same, since they want to progress further and for this reason are searching people with their progress for their static. Thats neither bad or good. It is just the way it is and everyone is able with the forum, pf or other sites to search for likeminded people to have fun in the game. My advice would be to search, if you got the time or just do v1-2 in pf and then you'll find more people willing to give you a chance

Healing 3s and 4s is an absolute nightmare, according to the healers in my static, and with the ridiculous amounts of damage going out, I believe them.

I've healed everything up to 1s inclusive. It's very dependent on the group how hard your role is - but if people mess up and die, they blame the healers regardless? It seems unfair.

Also, a lot of healers who pug have to deal with absolute nightmare tanks. My static's sch pugged 3s one week and had a pld eat every crit hit without a cd in swordoath. They died like six freaking times. Would YOU want to risk healing that nightmare?

I would. Don't get me wrong, sometimes i am really annoyed about tanks DD or whatever, but at the end of the day, i absolutely love the job and the responsibility and teamwork that comes with it. I started as a monk main and while i still love the class, healing for me and working together to push further with another healer, is to much fun for me to miss out on. Healing has both extremes, the role can be toxic, but i can be also very, very rewarding and fun, when you save the group for example or when you got an great healer partner and thats what i love about it. Also fights like v3 are amazing imo

On a sidenote: I love how many different perspective we have in the last two pages alone. From susa is easy to someone who had problems with randoms there. From v3 is a nightmare to v3 is love, v3 is life
This just goes to show, how different experience with people can be and are in ff14 and imo sometimes people forget that we all enjoy different stuff in the game and this also shows how different opinions and perspective can be and that everyone can find people he wants to play with. So don't give up and play the role you like and try to not let the few toxic people destroy your fun playing healer for example.

[Transient_Shadow]

I'm in a static that can't find a second healer after the other one went to school, and we're considering poaching our friend whose own static has been, and people from several different statics have approached me.

There are really only a couple things I can think about: make leveling easier, make healers more appealing, and reduce choice constraints like the dread of doubling up.

you seem to be missing the real reason no one wants to heal anymore. People treat us like shit. We're your scapegoat when things go wrong, you scream at us for not dpsing when your pulling half the damned dungeon, then you scream at us for letting you die when we try to comply with your demands for said dps.

You want healers to come back? start treating us with respect. I've played every role in this game and I can say healers are the most shit on. I heal because I enjoy it but my god do I question myself when I have to put up with this bullshit.

[Jxnibbles]

Plenty of reasons were given already in this thread, But some Healers have also changed roles due to how these classes were handled this expansion. You can change all you want with these fights but if these players don't want to swap back then the problems will persist..

[Teraluna]

you seem to be missing the real reason no one wants to heal anymore. People treat us like shit. We're your scapegoat when things go wrong, you scream at us for not dpsing when your pulling half the damned dungeon, then you scream at us for letting you die when we try to comply with your demands for said dps.

You want healers to come back? start treating us with respect. I've played every role in this game and I can say healers are the most shit on. I heal because I enjoy it but my god do I question myself when I have to put up with this bullshit.

Looking at a number of replies here, people won't listen. They come along with such things as 'you should ignore the deteriorating group interactions'. 'It hasn't changed but people are too sensitive'.......and so on.

Then treating posts like the above - based on what is actually happening - as some kind of aberration to their world of: perfect healer needed who instantly knows everything about every raid and can miraculously pull everyone through whilst being in the upper levels of dps output. And if you don't you're out as you need to learn to play.

I've played mmo's for years, probably before may of these posters where born. Then they come along and say things haven't changed. Yes they bloody well have. And it's not a pleasant change by any stretch of the imagination.

An irreversible change - probably in today's instant reward climate. So keep wondering where all the healers are, when you know deep down why you're having to ask this in the first place.

[Tridus]

I've experienced this myself with ex primals in the early days and i've never blamed the community for this, because at the end of the day, everyone should have the right to choose the people he wants to play with in pf. For instance, if you want to farm and do a farm group, you'd expect them to be able to farm the content and therefore you won't take new players with you. For statics this is the same, since they want to progress further and for this reason are searching people with their progress for their static.

That's entirely true, people can group with whoever they want. The trouble is when the entire community fights over the experienced healers and nobody is helping the inexperienced ones get experienced, what you wind up with is a supply & demand issue. Typically, when it gets bad enough some groups will have no choice but to find someone and help train them.