Any word on SCH healing potency?

[Dregenfox]

I agree. That stun on holy works wonders. However, I think it's pretty obvious that WHM aoe dps is superior and easier to output. But SCH is very good as well.
I tried a couple dungeons as well, but unfortunately the parties I found didn't allow me to do great dps, I was doing around 2.5k. I believe that a good party may allow SCH to reach WHM dps though.
On a large enough group of mobs (6+ targets) miasma 2 and holy are actually very close in terms of damage.

I think SCH can still match WHM aoe DPS fairly easily, but it's definitely harder since you actually have to keep the tank alive.

It really depends on the skill of the tank as well. For tanks who only pull one-group at a time I was also only getting 2.4-2.5k dps, and I'd suspect WHM would pull similar numbers without a good multi-pulling tank.

[Sebazy]

Well I did manage to finally get a decent run

Nice work! That's actually quite a bit better than I expected. I was suspecting it'd barely break the 3k sustained mark but that's really very decent. If you do manage to log a solid run, link it here as it'd be very interesting to compare.

[VenusStar]

As a scholar currently sitting at Exdeath Enrage in O4S, I would like to say Scholar is in a solid spot at the moment. While I'm not happy with how raw a deal Scholar got when Stormblood launched, 4.05 remedy a good portion. I would like MINOR changes, like Rouse, actually affecting Aetherpact which it currently doesn't. Selene ability changes, Silent Dusk you would never use, Fey Caress super situational, and Fey Wind either buff it so it's more noticeable or let us expand Fey Gauge so Eos can use it. I would also like more uses for the Fey Gauge then just for one ability, because I would only use Aetherpact on the OT to handle hard hitting adds like in O3S or when I need to free up my cohealer and start burning for tight DPS checks like in O3S and O4S.

[technole]

Fay Caress and several other cross-role skills like Break (heavy) may not be entirely useful now, but they could certainly could be in upcoming savage tiers. Rescue and Surecast have good uses this tier. It's hard to write the book on debuff management yet.

Silent Dusk is a hard use case because no other healer has a silence in their kit, so Scholar has to be a cover for the jobs that could provide such. A fight has to justify some use of Selene in the first place or a phase where a swap could be used. Like back in A11S it was quite optimal to open the entire phase one with Selene, and you'd have Fey Caress if people were dead for numbers, dissipate if not-needed, or swap into Eos after such. There were life-saver moments in Thordan Extreme if you had people mess up the towers especially in the 2nd half of the fight. I have mixed feelings, on one hand they could replace the skill with something else but they apparently did their work to analyze every skill each job should have.

Aetherpact is already good potency wise at 480 potency (its a little less considering fairy vs player potency). Considering Lustrate is 600 potency and Rouse would have it almost what, around 650 potency when you scale down fairy potency. That'd be too good, and it's already the best HP regen nectar out of all the healers. It is absolutely fantastic in several parts of O2S and O3S like it's total a piece of mind as long as its connected to a tank they don't have to be touched during the heaviest damage areas like the O3 add phases, where both healers can get damage up. Plus having Rouse still be available for things like when its drained and/or for WD is good. That's why I feel it's fine the way it is potency wise. Now if we never have to account for the possible delay to connect when she has to get in-place, it'd be even better.

[VenusStar]

Fey Caress I'd be more happy with if it could remove stuff off that normal esuna couldn't, like the slow petrifaction debuff in O2S or heal Oink! off if a party member didn't stack in time. Silent Dusk I have to write off as useless, not only do tanks have Interject which silences an enemy, but Ninjas also have Juggulate which silences. Tanks and Ninjas can silence an enemy more efficiently than Selene can. We all know if a fairy is already embracing they'll do it first THEN Silent Dusk, which by then Overheat's gone off and the party is scrambling to deal with the Iron Giant.

In the case with Aetherpact it's just weird that Rouse doesn't work with Aetherpact even though it Rouse quite clearly states "Increases healing magic potency and damage dealt by pet by 40%." But for some reason, it doesn't work for Aetherpact? it's just an inconsistency that I wanted fixing, or at the very least have Fey Union to state clearly it's unaffected by Rouse and Fey Illumination.

[inhaledcorn]

In the case with Aetherpact it's just weird that Rouse doesn't work with Aetherpact even though it Rouse quite clearly states "Increases healing magic potency and damage dealt by pet by 40%." But for some reason, it doesn't work for Aetherpact? it's just an inconsistency that I wanted fixing, or at the very least have Fey Union to state clearly it's unaffected by Rouse and Fey Illumination.

Fey's Union probably isn't considered healing magic, rather an ability. Largesse doesn't affect our multitude of healing abilities, so Rouse, likewise, wouldn't affect Fey's Union.

[technole]

Eos is just too good for the O3 solider add phase, and yes Silent Dusk is practically useless this tier. That's just another situation where we shouldn't be relying on a Scholar losing free healing potential for a silence.

Fay Caress being able to dispel non-dispellable stuff could break some things in-favor of taking a SCH over another healer. Things like the paralyze in O4S Neo if you get clipped by forked lightning could easily be a raid DPS increase if you can cleanse that off. That paralyze is really nasty. Or being able to cleanse damage down stacks if people eat Emptiness.

Aetherpact puts your fairy in a state that she doesn't respond to any other fairy command until she disconnects. So it makes sense, could they make the tooltip more clear? Surely.

[jstamos]

SCH could use a buff to Physick, since it's nearly useless. Otherwise, SCH potency is fine, and I heal better on it than my AST or WHM (WHM is sooooo boring)

[Sebazy]

Excuse the necro bump. An update to my 'challenge'.

I'm really starting to think that 4K DPS is doable as WHM but I've not quite got there yet. I'm pretty much plateauing at 3.8K DPS regardless of if it's a fast run (e.g. 11 minute example) or slow (e.g. 19 minute example).

How are things coming along on the SCH side?