1.20 Ease of crafting

[Jinko]

So basically they should make this game for crafters and gatherers and battle content should be an after though, do you realise that the reason why you craft and gather is to support the battle classes, who else will buy your equipment and items if not them ?

You may of stuck around during the games "dark days" but that says more about you and that you can get by on doing the same mundane tasks every day, not everyone is cut out for that, should you be commended for that, personally I don't think so.

[Kiote]

So basically they should make this game for crafters and gatherers and battle content should be an after though, do you realise that the reason why you craft and gather is to support the battle classes, who else will buy your equipment and items if not them ?

This may well be the most ignorant thing I've ever seen you post.

Not one single person has ever suggested that Battle Content should take a back seat to Gathering or Crafting. We have only pointed out that Gathering and Crafting are both very popular activities that do not deserve to be dismantled and ignored.

It is not unreasonable to want content for every kind of class.

It is not unreasonable to want your favorite class to maintain a significant role in the game.

It is not unreasonable to ask for engaging game play mechanics.

It is, however, unreasonable to say that Crafting and Gathering do not bring in and maintain a player base. This game maintained a population solely on these classes. People have shown time and time again that there is a very large dedicated audience to these kind of activities. In FFXIV it is one of the few remaining features that stand out among other eMMOs. If this game is to ever have any hope of become a top tier MMO the Dev team needs to embrace these unique features and improve upon them. They need to stop ignoring and dismantling them.

[Physic]

So basically they should make this game for crafters and gatherers and battle content should be an after though, do you realise that the reason why you craft and gather is to support the battle classes, who else will buy your equipment and items if not them ?

You may of stuck around during the games "dark days" but that says more about you and that you can get by on doing the same mundane tasks every day, not everyone is cut out for that, should you be commended for that, personally I don't think so.

actually they should make the game good, and no class should be an afterthought. In fact they really dont need to bump heads at all. Neither needs to be an afterthought. However the class that trains and dedicates itself to making items, should probably be able to make good items, and probably not have it be boring and suck? I would imagine the class that excells at battles will be able to battle anything, and not have it be boring and suck.


As a random sidethought, thinking about having special facilities that a crafter can use in an open world dungeon, could offer a really interesting group mechanic. Where you fight your way into a dungeon and have to basically defend the crafter and craft area while they make rare or special items. This would involve both the crafter and the battle class. They could even have NMs whose spawn conditions are dependent on how long you can hold one of these spots.

crafting and battle dont need to be at odds with each other

[Atheena]

Really do i want a stupid mini-game in my crafting? I mean crafting it's self is a second job away from my real job! I'd rather have FFXI's old crafting system than FFXIV's crafting anyday! Just make it harder to get HQ and Rare items from mobs to make higher tier gear!

[Atheena]

This may well be the most ignorant thing I've ever seen you post.

Not one single person has ever suggested that Battle Content should take a back seat to Gathering or Crafting. We have only pointed out that Gathering and Crafting are both very popular activities that do not deserve to be dismantled and ignored.

It is not unreasonable to want content for every kind of class.

It is not unreasonable to want your favorite class to maintain a significant role in the game.

It is not unreasonable to ask for engaging game play mechanics.

It is, however, unreasonable to say that Crafting and Gathering do not bring in and maintain a player base. This game maintained a population solely on these classes. People have shown time and time again that there is a very large dedicated audience to these kind of activities. In FFXIV it is one of the few remaining features that stand out among other eMMOs. If this game is to ever have any hope of become a top tier MMO the Dev team needs to embrace these unique features and improve upon them. They need to stop ignoring and dismantling them.

Okay after they craft all this crap (players like you) and battle players (like me) doesn't come back to this game in its current state, who will buy your wares? This crafting system is the worst out there among today's and even older mmo's!

Nothing wrong with WoW's crafting system it actually works as Jewel Crafting/mining made me tons of money with out having to make crafting my second job next to my real life one!

[Physic]

Okay after they craft all this crap (players like you) and battle players (like me) doesn't come back to this game in its current state, who will buy your wares? This crafting system is the worst out there among today's and even older mmo's!

Nothing wrong with WoW's crafting system it actually works as Jewel Crafting/mining made me tons of money with out having to make crafting my second job next to my real life one!

just dont craft, you want to make money, gathering is a better bet. but you ll have to look at the market to see what items are in high demand. Crafting for most crafts is foremost about making items, if you dont want to make items, why waste your time?

[Jinko]

It is, however, unreasonable to say that Crafting and Gathering do not bring in and maintain a player base. This game maintained a population solely on these classes. People have shown time and time again that there is a very large dedicated audience to these kind of activities. .

They maintained a population because people wanted to play the game and had nothing else to do, many ofthose crafters and gatherers were also leveling battle classes aswell thats why you see so many people with all (most) their classes maxed out at 50.

You are getting content for gathering and crafting classes its just not the most important aspect for the dev team.

just dont craft, you want to make money, gathering is a better bet. but you ll have to look at the market to see what items are in high demand. Crafting for most crafts is foremost about making items, if you dont want to make items, why waste your time?

I make more money from my crafting than my gathering, perhaps my gathering is still to low though. /shrugs

[Lucifer]

Remove the mini-game, that's fine, but bring back the complex recipes.
Instant gratification is becoming more and more apparent. It's disgusting. Do you people not have jobs? Do you get paid every minute you work? No you do not. You get paid every week or every two weeks or every month. It all varies where you work.

They are trying to sell this game to children and I am becoming more and more dissatisfied with it.