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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    Missing tab:
    - Primals totem (including Leviathan's Mirror of the Whorl and Shiva's Diamond Dust)
    - Tomestone upgrades and co(twines, coats, tomestone to buy weapons and Rowena's Token)
    - Raid tokens (24 man raid tokens, story mode tokens, savage mode books)
    Nope, all those are fine as tokens that can be in inventories since you are supposed get rid of them if you do not need them. They would just bloat the currency menu player side rather than help.

    If you are saving them and not trading them in you need to reexamine why you are still holding onto them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post

    If you are saving them and not trading them in you need to reexamine why you are still holding onto them.
    I need a certain amount of tokens to trade in though - so I might be holding onto them because I cant exchange them for what I want yet.
    In case of primal-mounts thats 99 tokens needed, so holding onto them might take a while.

    With Levi and Shiva its easy aswell: you cant buy their weapons, so you need to farm for them, holding onto mirrors and dust until they finally, finally drop! I kept a Levi mirror for 3 months because I wanted the damn upgraded ast-globe that just wouldnt drop.

    Case and point: Sometimes you have to hold onto those items for quite a while and it would be really nice if they were moved to currency - specially because the new primal-tokens pretty much work like curreny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I need a certain amount of tokens to trade in though - so I might be holding onto them because I cant exchange them for what I want yet.
    In case of primal-mounts thats 99 tokens needed, so holding onto them might take a while.
    And if you are actively seeking out that mount just think of it as collecting 99 parts of the whistle. Yes, they can take a long time, and yes, they can take up space in your inventory, but "taking a while" is no reason for them to be currencies.

    With Levi and Shiva its easy aswell: you cant buy their weapons, so you need to farm for them, holding onto mirrors and dust until they finally, finally drop! I kept a Levi mirror for 3 months because I wanted the damn upgraded ast-globe that just wouldnt drop.
    And you only need 1 Mirror or 5 Diamond Dusts per item. Making those a currency would just needlessly bloat the currency menu. You could have easily tossed the Mirror and just gotten another after you finally gotten the globe. you were the one who clogged your inventory with an unused upgrade token.

    Case and point: Sometimes you have to hold onto those items for quite a while and it would be really nice if they were moved to currency - specially because the new primal-tokens pretty much work like curreny.
    They are more stamp cards that you trade in. Them being items that you can toss when is much better in the long run than adding new trial currencies every patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    And if you are actively seeking out that mount just think of it as collecting 99 parts of the whistle. Yes, they can take a long time, and yes, they can take up space in your inventory, but "taking a while" is no reason for them to be currencies.



    And you only need 1 Mirror or 5 Diamond Dusts per item. Making those a currency would just needlessly bloat the currency menu. You could have easily tossed the Mirror and just gotten another after you finally gotten the globe. you were the one who clogged your inventory with an unused upgrade token.



    They are more stamp cards that you trade in. Them being items that you can toss when is much better in the long run than adding new trial currencies every patch.
    The new primal-tokens are working excatly like the beast-tribe-tokens that are getting moved to currency - are you against that aswell?

    The mirror is not a guranteed drop. And you have to roll on it. Sure, I would have loved to farm for one again after I finished my farm for the globe...

    Why is it better that you can toss those items? What do you gain from that? If they're moved to currency I gain inventory space and you lose nothing, so I cant understand why you're against that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    And if you are actively seeking out that mount just think of it as collecting 99 parts of the whistle. Yes, they can take a long time, and yes, they can take up space in your inventory, but "taking a while" is no reason for them to be currencies.
    And you only need 1 Mirror or 5 Diamond Dusts per item. Making those a currency would just needlessly bloat the currency menu. You could have easily tossed the Mirror and just gotten another after you finally gotten the globe. you were the one who clogged your inventory with an unused upgrade token.
    They are more stamp cards that you trade in. Them being items that you can toss when is much better in the long run than adding new trial currencies every patch.
    The reason for them being a currency and going in the currency tab is that they are currency. If you give something to a vendor NPC in exchange for something else and it doesn't have other type of use, that's a currency. The reason it wouldn't have to bloat the currency tab is because if SE programmed it correctly (which they won't or can't do, of course), currency tabs and counters would be dynamically generated only if you have the currency. So if you don't have Horde Totems or mirrors or unidentified arbitrary item #16, it wouldn't have to show "0", instead it'd just not be there.

    OR SE, we could just just stop making new currencies and items for every little thing/primal/raid/whatever and stop bloating everyone's inventory.
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    Last edited by FaileExperiment; 09-05-2017 at 05:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaileExperiment View Post
    OR SE, we could just just stop making new currencies and items for every little thing/primal/raid/whatever and stop bloating everyone's inventory.
    With jobs number increasing each expansion, it's unthinkable to stop getting tokens for primals and raids: getting gear would become a real pain in the a**, just like it was back in ARR when running a primal 40 times and still not your weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    With jobs number increasing each expansion, it's unthinkable to stop getting tokens for primals and raids: getting gear would become a real pain in the a**, just like it was back in ARR when running a primal 40 times and still not your weapon.
    That thinking is a bit narrow-minded. No one is suggesting that no token system be used at all, but just that SE really should rethink a system where every single primal/raid/whatever needs it's own individual tokens, with each one requiring inventory space. There must be a better way.
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