SE what is up with these bogus raid loot rules?

[Vaer]

This is so stupid how can you run the normal raids all day and it will make it to where you cant roll on an item but yet you cant do the same thing in savage mood?

The strict loot system is in place to make it harder for people that sell runs and also because it gives gear that won't be outdated for another 5 months. They let you run around in normal as much as you want because the loot is only i320, which you can get off the MB. i340 only comes from savage for another 2 or so months.

I do agree that skipping ahead shouldn't invalidate previous turn loot since you technically didn't even do it.

[bswpayton]

The strict loot system .

Its a huge inconvenience, because pugging the other two is gona be hard enough but then you have to go back and do the first two before u even get to the harder raids every week so you dont mess up your pages. Who came up with this stuff, and I understand the selling runs stuff , but I mean people are gona do that anyway so I dont see what they are actually preventing. It would be alot better to just not allow those whom have cleared already to roll on loot and not effect everyone else, sometimes the games logic just doesnt make much sense at all.

[Vaer]

Its a huge inconvenience, because pugging the other two is gona be hard enough but then you have to go back and do the first two before u even get to the harder raids every week so you dont mess up your pages. Who came up with this stuff, and I understand the selling runs stuff , but I mean people are gona do that anyway so I dont see what they are actually preventing. It would be alot better to just not allow those whom have cleared already to roll on loot and not effect everyone else, sometimes the games logic just doesnt make much sense at all.

People are gonna sell anyway yes, but how it is now they have to make completely new characters to not nerf the chests. If they didn't have it they could just roll with their 7 mains and give the buyer all the loot every time as many times they want. Right now if they did 7 people with clears the 8th person gets nothing, only the page.

One of the main reasons they added this is because people wanted a way to help their friends get clears (basically if they didn't care about the loot, just the clear) after their first of the week. This system didn't exist during launch.

[FoxyAreku]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

[Mirateski]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

Ok but, if the content is 100% intended for statics, why can you pug it at all? I could understand this back when you had to sit at the entrance to get in as a full party, but now we have multiple ways to match a bunch of random people into a group to complete specifically these raids.

I feel like if you skipped a turn, running it again should net you the page at least, since you still did complete it for the week.

(fyi, I'm in a 6/8 static that's trying to recruit two melee dps, and the random 2 we pug each week ALWAYS WIN THE UPGRADE ITEMS. IT IS VERY ANNOYING)

[rjspencer4]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

and that's why I don't even attempt this content.

[LunaFaye]

Because the content is intended for statics.

Join a static if you want to raid.

Back in the day I agree that raiding was literally just meant to be ran by statics, also the reason we didn't have it available via DF for a long time, but that changed with HW.

And while I agree that it is easier with statics, because you have people that are like minded, there's nothing wrong with pugging, if and here's the problem, the person that joins the group would put some effort into research.

As OP has proven in many topics prior, always late to the game, always annoyed by the "current" system that doesn't give out freebies. Even tho in most cases it has been already adjusted, like running Coil in HW and thinking that this is hard content and need nerfs/adjustments, so that they can clear it for WT etc.

Clearly there's more to it then just jumping into a PF party and hope that the next person carries you through the content. Sadly, that isn't new tho, and as we have seen, OP couldn't even be bothered to read up on raiding or the requirements/rules that goes with it, ruining it for the other parties that pug'd for 2 chests that week. But hey, at the end it's always the system that's bad, right?