Black Mage Raise Ability

[hijifa]

no thanks... blm has nice numbers now cause they don't have rdm utility. if you give blm utility, theres no reason to bring rdm, so you either drop blm dps or inc rdm dps.. how it is now is fine (blm high numbers, no utility, rdm smaller numbers, more utility)

[Baka_Neko1]

<.< tag a 3min CD to it. done.

[RuneSevalle]

<.< tag a 3min CD to it. done.

No. Now let this dumb idea die and never return.

[Remedi]

If anything they should make death more punishing not just beign an inconvenience

[Lambdafish]

<.< tag a 3min CD to it. done.

How about we tag more punishment to verraise (such as increasing its MP cost) and forget about the horrible idea that is BLM raise. done.

[Ceallach]

How about we tag more punishment to verraise (such as increasing its MP cost) and forget about the horrible idea that is BLM raise. done.

We don't even need to do that to red mage. Summoner is what needs buffs and black mages have never had healing. They shouldn't start having healing now.

[Tropa]

Black mages lack utility because they make up for it in raw dps, just like SAM.

[Strength]

Only usable in astral fire, costs a lot of MP. So then while you can't get past the infinite MP issue (and tbh you're never going to get past that on blm), it's a dps loss.

how the hell did the retainer take damage?

[Kabooa]

Black mages lack utility because they make up for it in raw dps, just like SAM.

Summoner.

Might be in a clunky spot, but they're bringing a comparable amount of damage with party buffs and raise.

[Lambdafish]

We don't even need to do that to red mage. Summoner is what needs buffs and black mages have never had healing. They shouldn't start having healing now.

If we were talking about something completely different then I would say you are totally right, but this discussion is about caster raise abilities in isolation, and in that regard, verraise is slightly too strong. As of right now, you can have both healers in a raid die and the RDM raise both of them without much trouble, turning what used to be (and still is in a party without a RDM) a guaranteed wipe into an inconvenience. I'm not advocating removing that, but something that strong should completely cripple the RDM for a bit.

This can be likened to attitudes surrounding 3.0 WAR, people were saying to simply buff the other jobs to match WAR, but the fact of the matter was that WAR didn't have any weaknesses, and the idea of buffing the other tanks to its level would have caused power creep and problems for encounter design, and buffing the healing capabilities of SMN and BLM rather than toning back RDM would most definitely cause power creep when it comes to raising players.