CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[Claire_Pendragon]

The Glass (CNJ) is half empty, therefor it should be considered empty! It's not even a whole glass!

NO! The Glass (THM) is half full, therefor it should be considered full! You round up 0.5 to the whole number 1!

This sums up the whole thread.

[Jovy]

I'm for whatever changes necessary inorder for me to have an effective nuker. I dont care what skills or abilities they shuffle to make this happen. Most have both jobs leveled anyways so who cares which is which as long as it works. SE please dont make content for NUKERS.... i dont need the threads filled with people ranting about how Moogles can only be done with 7 mages and 1 tank. BALANCE IT!!! Before you release the patch.

[RemVye]

Why is this thread still open?

[Bowen]

That research ignores completely everything that wasn't in XI. Every spell that wasn't in that list but which THN possesses makes it a much stronger candidate for being a BLM. XI's BLM may as well be called an elementalist, while XIV's is darker and more evil/or absolute.

Um, your assuming what BLM is going to be before it is realeased. We have to wait before we see if it is still an Elementalist or something more dark/Evil magic.
Black Mages/Black Magic in general have never been 'evil' they just used the offensive side of spells. I mean look at Vivi from FFIX. He was FAR from evil. And Lulu. She had a little goth thing going on but, that is hardly evil.

[Betelgeuzah]

Um, your assuming what BLM is going to be before it is realeased. We have to wait before we see if it is still an Elementalist or something more dark/Evil magic.
Black Mages/Black Magic in general have never been 'evil' they just used the offensive side of spells. I mean look at Vivi from FFIX. He was FAR from evil. And Lulu. She had a little goth thing going on but, that is hardly evil.

I agree that they have never been 'evil' per-se. Well, neither is thaumaturgy really. Being absolute or lawful-chaos type would still be a good fit for it.

[Malakhim]

Giving Black Mage and White Mage actual affinities seems to be what they're trying to do this time around.

[Buuul]

A good mage in this game has both CON and THM at level 50 right now. End of story. Which class turns into which job is a non-issue if you take mage seriously.

[Answa]

A THM has two basic attack (nuke) spells and one other that they get later on. I would not call that fundamental to the role of THM. Status effects are a defining characteristic however.

Maybe you should've read this sentence?

Following that we will be announcing the new abilities, actions and traits for each class.

Why is this thread still open?

Because the devs posted on it with more bait. :P

[Wynn]

Maybe you should've read this sentence?

No, I read it. But I also read this, which makes the point you are trying to make irrelevant:

Our next class revamps will not alter the fundamentals of each class.

As such, some details will be changed, but there will not be any major changes for classes.

[RemVye]

A good mage in this game has both CON and THM at level 50 right now. End of story. Which class turns into which job is a non-issue if you take mage seriously.

inb4 "BUT BUT BUT I DON' WAHHNAHH LEVEL ANYTHING I DON WAAHHHNAHHH LEVEL *WAHHHH WAHHHH*"