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  1. #11701
    Player
    Rhus's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Hi first post

    Not sure I have a bad story. if anything I'm someones bad story. This is the first time I've ever played XIV and MMO so I'm still new to a lot of things
    Doing a dungeon,toto rak?, as tank and as my first time, taking my time and no idea where I'm going just forward which is right so far. I have a dps who decides to run off on their own and as he has been getting ahead of me a lot, i guess they have done it before so maybe I missed something, maybe they just followed the more confident player, Im now alone and got caught by some monsters. Dead.
    The healer came running to aid and the other two DPS soon follow behind. Thing is, I was in the right place as once we beat the monsters we just carried on so it's not as if I took a wrong turn.
    Probably my fault but as it's only my third dungeon, my perception of behind me isn't great as I get nervous I'm going to run into some monster or die if I look back, let the party down as they need me to tank.
    I am new, I am learning lol
    (5)

  2. #11702
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    I am new, I am learning lol
    Hey there. If you're worried about that, I'm willing to help you out. Gonna add you in-game when I can, so you're able to see when I'm on etc. It'll probably be nice for you to have a friend in-game to ask for help too.
    (3)
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  3. #11703
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    LunaFaye's Avatar
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    What is it with tanks who let the other tank pull, but then suddenly decide they want to tank? I did MSQ roulette and other tank goes into dps stance which, in my mind, is the universal symbol for "you go ahead other tank." So I go ahead and pull and do my thing etc etc all the way up to the first boss. Suddenly I'm fighting for aggro the rest of the dungeon.

    Just say you want to tank now. That's all you have to do. Don't let the other tank tank and then decide you think you can do a better job without saying anything.
    Clearly the Off Tanks fault that you can't hold hate/aggro in tank stance. So I don't think that he wanted to tank, but sadly you didn't give him/her a other choice if you can't keep the mobs together and glued to yourself. Now I could have understood, if he/she was switching tank/dps stance every 3 seconds and using provoke, because that's something that's not new in DF. Maybe you should consider playing OT right from the start, or tell the next off tank that you get, to not use any stance and go afk for the first 15 minutes.
    (0)

  4. #11704
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    Aniise's Avatar
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    Crystarium
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    Nhaama Kagon
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 95
    Yesterday I had a more or less interesting run in Gubal NM.

    To help a friend level her SAM to 60, I wanted to q as tank to shorten the waiting time. Since I already leveled my preffered tank class (PLD) to 70, but still wanted to take the chance of getting some easy exp, I decided to go as WAR...a class I haven't touched for ages,but never really had any problems with in the past.

    So we get in very fast. I see that we have another Samurai as a dps, which I like because SAM dmg is usually pretty good, and an Healer (AST) with the same surname. So you know they belong together. 'Oh well, no problem, it's cute', I think since my friend and I share the same surname too and start pulling after gettin protes.

    The first few pulls go very well for me. I'm kinda absorbed in my rotation at this point, but it goes nicely as I can stancedance to do some extra dmg while managing my cds. There seem to be no healing problems at all, but after a while I start noticing that things die at a very slow pace...even though my friend is dpsing her heart out. I find this kinda weird, but don't wanna mention it, until my friend tells me over discord that I should check the other SAMs gear...and oooooh boy....

    They were wearing mainly lvl 50 gear. A few Garlond pieces , but mainly the stuff you get from the lvl 50 SAM quest when you unlock the job. On the right side there were some crafted lvl 50 accessories, and a freaking lvl 5 ring.

    As things seem to go well at this point however, we keep it to ourselfes and after finally killing the first boss which seemed to take forever, as the healer didn't seem to know they can attack too to help out a bit but rather just stood anround or ran in circles if they had nothing to do, we move on downstairs. But again, I don't say anything because, you know...as long as they don't let me die and so on..

    So then things start to get really annoying. The other SAM decides to take pulling into their own hands and just runs off. I'm a bit taken aback by this but follow. The first time, it works out. The second time, it doesn't. I take aggro immediatley, but the healer doesn't do anything to heal me up, instead doing the /cheer emote towards their friend. After we respawn I just have to say something and ask the SAM not to pull for me but let me do it, since big pulls are normally okay for me but not in the case when the dps is clearly lacking, to which they replie: 'Shut up I learn [teach] you how to tank'

    ...yeah...right. I'm just about to explain to them again why I don't think big pulls are a good idea in this case, when my friend informs me that they wanna kick me..
    ...and out I am. My friend leaves shortly after.

    I play this game for almost two years now and have never been kicked before. I never imagined it to happen because of such a stupid reason. But oh well...I guess you just can't help it sometimes. My friend and I went in again and this time it was amazing, our heal and second dps were doing their very best and I could pull big without any worries, since the mobs just melted away I know I'm not the best WAR tank out there, and I am always ready to learn something new, but getting both commendations at the end of this run really felt good after the disaster before that.
    (10)
    Last edited by Aniise; 08-29-2017 at 08:27 PM. Reason: just typos and stuff :'D
    Me too, Erenville, me too

  5. #11705
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I don't think primal seems particularly receptive to the idea of WT this morning after maintenance. Leviathan extreme, easy right? Wrong.

    First party queues up synced. I back out. Wait 2 minutes to silence and no requeue so I leave party.
    Second party, unsynced. This is good for WT. First time they activate the generator too early and everyone that isnt a tank dies. Second generator activation also done too early, tanks take 40k damage. Run cleared but I feel like I should just solo it (because I can, and quite easily if you have a level 70 class).

    I am going to bed. Maybe partying won't be so bad if I sleep it off.
    (1)

  6. #11706
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    I don't think primal seems particularly receptive to the idea of WT this morning after maintenance. Leviathan extreme, easy right? Wrong.
    Nobody anywhere knows what to do in Leviathan/Ifrit/Ramuh EX when it's unsync. There is, 99% of the time, at least one wipe because people push too far without killing the adds/nails/spheres. It's gotten to the point where when we queue up I remind people to kill any adds ASAP, and if they don't we will wipe.
    (5)

  7. #11707
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    It sucks when you're super forgiving about something like that and people just go off the deep end. Until all our tanks and healers are leveled (so a while from now still) my boyfriend and I queue as tank/healer though we don't share the last name or indeed any resemblence to each other as he's a Roe.

    A few times over the past year or so we've had a DPS who likes to pull for him and he's said something and gotten kicked. Whenever that happens I just surprise them by popping out as well, enjoy waiting for a tank and a healer guys!
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  8. #11708
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    NintenPyjak64's Avatar
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    They'd have seen the stack marker on the first boss of Sirensong Sea. Chances are they just weren't paying attention/expected a carry.
    I once had a level 70 RDM who was *brand new* to Sirensong Sea who ran away with that stack mark and refused to stack with the group when we had the stack mark.

    It was pretty sad
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  9. #11709
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    msfakefur's Avatar
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    Lizha Rhid
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    Masamune
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    I once had a level 70 RDM who was *brand new* to Sirensong Sea who ran away with that stack mark and refused to stack with the group when we had the stack mark.

    It was pretty sad
    For some reason, I did that too when I first played Sirensong Sea. To this day, I have no idea what crossed my mind to run away from the group when the stack marker came up on me. Needless to say I died, and got carried in that fight...

    I was the healer.
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  10. #11710
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    MoonFluff's Avatar
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    Meyu Chelewae
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 64
    Ok so I'm starting to get really mad at people and frustrated lol. I did Susan Normal on WHM with another WHM. All the other healer did was use Medica 2 every once and a while and that was it, no dots or anything just chilling. We wiped at sword phase because OT didn't do mechanic no biggie. Next time near the end of the fight, no one has died, I'm healing and making sure to aero and do a few stones when I can. "MoonFluff can you stop dpsing and focus on healing pls?"

    "Uh what? No one is dying why..?"

    No response. Okay I guess I should just sit there in fights and do nothing then but overheal. :/
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