Quote Originally Posted by Elixirboy View Post
I did Bismarck EX and Ravana EX before it was possible to have an esoterics weapon, and they were a dps check at the time with Law gear. I was a bit late doing Garuda and Ifrit EX, having soldiery gear when I did them, but you actually had to handle mechanics, and even tank swap on Ifrit. Your dps had to be smart enough to wait 3(?) seconds in between nail kills, or your tank would get rekt, and during the swap the person giving the boss away needed to be smart enough to rotate counterclockwise to avoid getting another stack from the breath. Doing these primals when you are waaaay overgeared is not the same thing as doing them when they're relevant, and calling them easier than Royal Menagerie is just plain wrong. If people are having THAT much trouble with RM, maybe this is not the game for them.
Again if we want to talk about ilvl Id say the royal menagerie is harder than one of our current ex primals lakismi extreme whats the excuse there