Final Fantasy XIV Interview — Stormblood’s Success, Romance, Graphics Upgrades and Mo

[Kosmos992k]

Once again someone is being rude:

Yes, you are, but let's not let that get in the way of anything, eh?

Btw, you deconstruction of Yoshidas remarks is straining at the seams in your attempt to twist it to your purpose. You are trying very hard to create a reason to take offense where none was intended. Why are you doing that exactly?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Telling me or telling others what they are doing is rude to me.

You're telling me what me or what others are doing(saying).
Is your intent to be rude?

Since it is directed at me, I felt offended* with the aggressive tone of "Once again someone looking for offense*"

That's self fulfilling.

That is not a neutral stance, it is a passive-aggressive one.

An interesting statement.
While giving a neutral statement, it's possible the same person holds a different opinion, which in this case, is what you're saying is passive-aggressive.
Not entirely wrong, but then it's best to give suggestions as to how to better phrase something, while retaining the same information. (Most of your comments were arguably just as "passive-agresive" as you suggest everyone else is.)
(Of course, every person only "cares" enough to say information, when it matters to some extent to them, so neutral information can still be said with the person having emotional attachment, while not intending it. (and or intending it, depending on circumstances.))

I however was tying to help others show why it would be an issue to some. Telling people they should not feel in x way is a big rude don't you think?

While I technically didn't directly tell them "what was the correct way to think" (with the original post, but questionably so in the 2nd post, as its attempting to be more explanatory.) I indirectly told them, by using their logic in the same way they used it. If the logic is incorrect, sayings its rude doesnt make it incorrect, and it only makes their own statement rude in the process. (unless of course you're referring to using someones own set of rules/logic as an example for them to see, is what is rude.)

But if indirect statements such as this are rude, since they intend to "tell someone what to do" then your own question is doing the same?

EDIT: looking back, I think i misunderstood your colon to mean the followings, rather than the prior.
EDIT#2: Someone already said it, but just wanted to clarify, you can have romantic feelings for someone, w/o being sexually attracted to them. I know many straight/gay/bi and so forth, people who have sexual attractions, but lose their sexual attraction for a person they still feel romantic with.

[GetFoesReqd]

I liked their response to the romance thing personally. If you wanna feel that "x" character might have feelings for the WoL, then go nuts, just don't expect anything concrete from them. Otherwise, it would no longer be an imagination issue, and its been made very clear that Yoshi-P and the rest of the team are 100% about letting players do and think as much as they want, as best as they can. So much so, that they even seem to have won Tabata, the FF15 guy who initially made 1.0 of FF14, over to their side if his interview about mods is to be believed, but that's off topic, sorry. The thing is, some times the only way to let certain freedoms happen for everyone is to not nail things down for some, or it will shut the door on others. But I see no reason you couldn't imagine Lyse digging your female WoL or what have you. That's just as possible as anything else, and just as likely to be written (that is to say, not) into the canon as anything else. ^_^

[dinnertime]

I'm still hoping for that character creation update.
I really don't care much about butt sliders but there should be a real muscle/build slider since the one we have only adjusts the muscle definition. I also want more options.

[Naunet]

1) This is an interview and therefore he's going to give as short a statement as possible to fit into the time frame for the interview and therefore can't possibly be expected to explore every possibility.

Except the statement wasn't as short "as possible". He specifically elaborated on two situations and felt the need to distinguish that only males who play male characters could view it as romantic, while female players or males who play female characters could view it as admiration.

If he had mention them, and the possibility of how they would have felt in a romantic setting where someone may or may not be attracted to these NPCs, then its only fair to mention she didnt mention them.

I just want to mention that I do understand the difference between asexual and aromantic, and I agree with your statement that an asexual individual can be involved in a romantic relationship. I just want to point out that both of those situations are covered under the umbrella of "either view it as romantic implications or don't". I didn't ignore anyone.

[Lilseph]

Do we really have to turn this into a "being politcally correct" discussion? Yoshi-p was very neutral, he might have his opinion and that's fine.

As for the interview, just give me an HQ texture pack, Yoshi-p. Uncompressed textures, better lightning effects, butt sliders. I don't think it requires a full overhaul, but at least match the resolutions to nowday's standards.

[Hunky]

Except the statement...

It was just an example. There was never a problem to begin with.

Yoshida not specifically mentioning LGBT people in an example is not an issue. It's not discrimination. It's not bigotry. It's just an example he tried to make.

Now if the game made fun of gay people, condemned gay people, perpetuated stigmas or stereotypes, I would understand your feelings. Those kinds of things do warrant such anger.

But the game is not like that at all.

The game itself is very inclusive, and has been pretty progressive, especially compared to a lot of video games today. We have had openly gay npc couples, and same-sex marriages are allowed in-game.

It is clear that the developers have us in mind, and I personally appreciate it.

I see where you're coming from. Discrimination and prejudice definitely still exist and we should try to fight them. Things like representation and inclusiveness are important, and we should recognize their importance. We still got a way to go in terms of acceptance and awareness. Even though it might seem like everything's ok and better now, there are still parts in the country, and the world, where gay people face tremendous obstacles. These are valid issues.

But Yoshi's response is not an issue. You're making it an issue when it's not.

And it's unreasonable behavior like this that ends up discrediting actual, valid issues.

[Snow_Princess]

EDIT: looking back, I think i misunderstood your colon to mean the followings, rather than the prior.
EDIT#2: Someone already said it, but just wanted to clarify, you can have romantic feelings for someone, w/o being sexually attracted to them. I know many straight/gay/bi and soforth, people who have sexual attractions, but lose their sexual attraction for a person they still feel romantic with.

As I said, I think romantic is not used in that context, that is why "platonic relationships" exists as a term. If I am wrong correct me, show me something but so far that statement has been ignored.

Except the statement wasn't as short "as possible". He specifically elaborated on two situations and felt the need to distinguish that only males who play male characters could view it as romantic, while female players or males who play female characters could view it as admiration.



I just want to mention that I do understand the difference between asexual and aromantic, and I agree with your statement that an asexual individual can be involved in a romantic relationship. I just want to point out that both of those situations are covered under the umbrella of "either view it as romantic implications or don't". I didn't ignore anyone.

See this is what people are not getting. It would be a non-issue if it was said something like I shown. However the fact he said males or females playing female chrs and saying male playing male chrs (leaving out same sex situations and leaving out female playing male chrs can be seen as questionable.)

Also a huge point is being missed here. I am here trying to show why some will take issue to this, while people are bent up being offensive in shoving their view down people's throats like how I got attacked for trying to explain something, missed out completely what I personally believe in. I simply see it as maybe mistranslated errors and example, the Japanese language is built on inferring meanings more then English does, like how I remarked earlier, I do not even know if their language has split words for being Bi and Pan. Meaning he was simply giving examples on some situations so people get what he means with the writing being vague on purpose.

With that said I still find it VERY AWKWARD he left out females playing males while commenting Males that play female. It was a long winded explanation where the "short interview excuse" is not valid in a situation where he was going into extra unneeded details. How can you excuse making a comment like "males that play female chrs" and leave out saying females that play male chrs? Take a step back and try to understand what people are saying and comment on that vs why you feel the need to push your opinion as fact.

[Naunet]

But Yoshi's response is not an issue. You're making it an issue when it's not.

My post was literally just me saying it felt really weird (I even used that exact word) that Yoshi would take pains to specify non-gay/lesbian relationships in his response when the game has made it clear that they're okay with presenting them (at least as minor bit characters). Everyone is twisting my words and trying to make me out into some raging crazy person just looking for a fight when all I said was that I found his reponse odd (and implied some disappointment).

[Kosmos992k]

It was just an example. There was never a problem to begin with.

Yoshida not specifically mentioning LGBT people in an example is not an issue. It's not discrimination. It's not bigotry. It's just an example he tried to make.

Now if the game made fun of gay people, condemned gay people, perpetuated stigmas or stereotypes, I would understand your feelings. Those kinds of things do warrant such anger.

But the game is not like that at all.

The game itself is very inclusive, and has been pretty progressive, especially compared to a lot of video games today. We have had openly gay npc couples, and same-sex marriages are allowed in-game.

It is clear that the developers have us in mind, and I personally appreciate it.

I see where you're coming from. Discrimination and prejudice definitely still exist and we should try to fight them. Things like representation and inclusiveness are important, and we should recognize their importance. We still got a way to go in terms of acceptance and awareness. Even though it might seem like everything's ok and better now, there are still parts in the country, and the world, where gay people face tremendous obstacles. These are valid issues.

But Yoshi's response is not an issue. You're making it an issue when it's not.
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And it's unreasonable behavior like this that ends up discrediting actual, valid issues.

Indeed, this is one of my problems with the response to Yoshida that acts like the examples he gave deliberately slighted LGBT individuals by omission. It was just an illustrative example to show that the motivations of the NPCs are open to interpretation, by design, allowing players of all types to view the motive and intent as they wish. Acting as if there was an intended slight creates harm by complaining about something that is not there.

This should never have been an issue, it's sad that it's become one.