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  1. #121
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ksenia Solo
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    I'm sure it has come up once or twice in the 12 pages behind me but Healer Coms the Tank, Tank Coms the healer and DPS Com each other.

    It's not even about deserving. It's about achievement logs. When I come out of a Dungeon or hest with 3 Comms, I actually get a little frustrated. Unless the other DPS AFK'ed the entire fight, I don't want your Comm.
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  2. #122
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    At the comment above: what the actual hell.

    EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: where in the tooltips does it say you, playing a specific role, have to commend someone of a specific role?

    Taken from our bestest friend Google

    commendation

    kɒmɛnˈdeɪʃ(ə)n/

    noun

    formal or official praise.

    "the film deserved the highest commendation"

    sinónimosraise,*congratulation,*appreciation,thanks;*Mais

    an award given for very good performance.

    "the detectives received commendations for bravery"

    sinónimos:award,*accolade,*prize,*honour,honourable mention,*mention,citation,*recognition;*Mais

    a very good result in an examination or competition.
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    Last edited by Spiroglyph; 08-27-2017 at 08:46 PM.

  3. #123
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    At the comment above: what the actual hell.

    EDIT FOR CLARIFICATION: where in the tooltips does it say you, playing a specific role, have to commend someone of a specific role?
    where in my job description of my HEALER role does it say i have to dps? Yoshi himself said healers don't have to do damage.

    we make our own rules. and Tank <-> Healer / DD <-> DD is a good rule so that everyone gets a commendation and can work towards his mount.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

  4. #124
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    The only reason for me giving out commendations is when a player plays good. That means i don't give any commendations most of the time especially not to healers and tanks who barley do their job.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    where in my job description of my HEALER role does it say i have to dps? Yoshi himself said healers don't have to do damage.

    we make our own rules. and Tank <-> Healer / DD <-> DD is a good rule so that everyone gets a commendation and can work towards his mount.
    I see, so basically this is that one achievement that doesn't depend on your own skill - you depend on someone else to know of and follow this "self made rule" that kind of defeats the purpose of commendations and commend you out of some sense of obligation!

    (also, where in my post did I mention healer DPS?...)
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  6. #126
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    Alessa Ravachi
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    When I do dungeons, I'm almost always with 1 or 2 friends. And we're on discord, so If it's me and one other, we each pick one person, that way both people playing with us are sure to get one unless of course one of them are playing badly/idiotic/rude or one of them does things that make us hapoy/laugh then we give it to the guy that just did his thing.

    Otherwise, it's 3 of us and one random, and unless that guy does something stupid he's gonna get 3 coms at the end. Lol

    If I get a com then cool, but I already have my gold magitek, so Im good, I don't need more
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    When I do dungeons, I'm almost always with 1 or 2 friends. And we're on discord, so If it's me and one other, we each pick one person, that way both people playing with us are sure to get one unless of course one of them are playing badly/idiotic/rude or one of them does things that make us hapoy/laugh then we give it to the guy that just did his thing.

    Otherwise, it's 3 of us and one random, and unless that guy does something stupid he's gonna get 3 coms at the end. Lol

    If I get a com then cool, but I already have my gold magitek, so Im good, I don't need more
    I do the same thing but I am a bit more strict in speaking up to split the com like that. Basically if both are doing stellar jobs or it is obvious they are a pair with us and making the run fun ill speak about splitting the coms, but it is rare 2 people make me feel that way. Usually one sticks out far stronger then the other, or both are bad. There was once we both com a DPS for being godly + only reason being there was to help the healer friend. They where gear capped/level capped so they did not need to be there at all, so yeah that is a case where I am willing to do double com for DPS/ none for healer. (Though both of us did that without talking about it, we usually have the same mind set in spotting performance)
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 08-27-2017 at 11:26 PM.

  8. #128
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    The whole situation regarding certain roles being more important then other is silly, and expecting comms for just playing a specific role is ridiculous. I play DPS because its what I enjoy playing, ninja is legit the reason I even got into this game in the first place. I give out comms dependent on how people played. Tanks and healers shouldn't feel entitled because they are playing "harder roles". If you play tanks because you like tanking cool, you player healers because you like healing, cool. I have been honestly shocked sometimes pulling all 3 comms for a regular dungeon run, even a couple times getting 5 comms on trial runs as a DPS. I guess in peoples eyes i must have done good, who knows.
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  9. #129
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    Keiner Aeolux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    where in my job description of my HEALER role does it say i have to dps? Yoshi himself said healers don't have to do damage.

    we make our own rules. and Tank <-> Healer / DD <-> DD is a good rule so that everyone gets a commendation and can work towards his mount.
    NO.

    Cheer,
    D.
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  10. #130
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    I see, so basically this is that one achievement that doesn't depend on your own skill - you depend on someone else to know of and follow this "self made rule" that kind of defeats the purpose of commendations and commend you out of some sense of obligation!

    (also, where in my post did I mention healer DPS?...)
    exactly, you do this just because it's kind - nobody leaves without a commendation and everyone will be happy and is one step further towards his mount.

    and since you seem not to remember: you didn't mentioned healer dps. I mentioned this. as a example where the community made their own rules instaed of following the rules of the dev team. saying that something doesn't stay in the tooltips is the same type of argument that healers shouldn't dps because they are healers and not DDs.

    i would suggest an argument like "if everyone gets a commendation anyway, then nobody will try to improve anymore", rather than: "it says healers heal / you have to commend the best player, so doing dps / commending specific roles by purpose is wrong." it all depends on what we make out of it, not what the original intention was. and since there is a reward behind the commendations, why not bending the system?
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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