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    Quote Originally Posted by Ing-Dono View Post
    I'm sorry but... this isn't discrimination, It's a puzzle, don't make it an issue...
    It isn't an issue for you - because it is not an issue for you does not mean it is not an issue for people with a medically diagnosed disability which involves letters and numbers. And yes it is a form of discrimination - if a building does not have a ramp for a person who is in a wheel chair that is a form of discrimination - different circumstances but the same thing. Seriously people who are commenting on this thread saying it is easy for them are forgetting that there are medical conditions which they do not have which exist and disabling other people who have these medical conditions to par take in this event. It is an issue which SE needed to think about but didn't so yes it is a form of discrimination.
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    I don't think everything should be made for everybody. Things are just harder in life if you have an ailment or condition and you deal with it; don't need to take things away from other people because you can't do them. This was an enjoyable puzzle, I really like it. People who can't do it can ask for help to complete it and move on to something else that is enjoyable to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    I don't think everything should be made for everybody.
    Thats discrimination right there to be honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    if you have an ailment or condition and you deal with it
    Again this is said by someone who has no disability stopping them doing this, i am paying the same as you i expect equality, also i am not taking anything away from anyone, i expect because i am paying the exact same as you to be given a fair chance, i and the other people with the same conditions as myself have not been given this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    This was an enjoyable puzzle, I really like it. People who can't do it can ask for help to complete it and move on to something else that is enjoyable to them.
    it was enjoyable for you because you DO NOT have the same conditions as me and a lot of other people. Ask for help he says, why should i be put in to a position where i have to ask for help you were not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariochie9771 View Post
    Thats discrimination right there to be honest.
    "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time"

    I fail to see how this is discrimination. Ok so you have Dyslexia, that sucks and I feel for you, however why do you find it acceptable to ruin our fun because of it? As others have mentioned, ask for help, It's a puzzle for a reason.
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    You can try to make me look like the bad guy as much as you like - I have a fair point, Square Enix did not put enough thought in to this event when they made it and as a result me and a lot of other people with the same conditions have struggled with it. And to be frank most of the people that have replied to this thread have no disability stopping them from taking part in this event - so really on this matter your opinions count for little to nothing because you were NOT effected by these disabilities and were able to do this event with out problems.

    As for the Rufalu's comment "I don't think everything should be made for everybody" - that is just disgusting, firstly everything should be made for everybody its the law its called the discrimination act - look it up it basically says everyone should have an equal chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time"

    I fail to see how this is discrimination. Ok so you have Dyslexia, that sucks and I feel for you, however why do you find it acceptable to ruin our fun because of it? As others have mentioned, ask for help, It's a puzzle for a reason.
    Umm because i pay the exact same as you I am entitled to get Equality. You feel for me do you - then why are you having a go at me, another person who has no disability commenting about stuff they dont know about. Ruin your fun, I havent ruined your fun you have done the event haven't you, how did i ruin it for you, how did i ruin the event for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    however why do you find it acceptable to ruin our fun
    Why do you find it acceptable that I was given an unfair disadvantage in this event which ruined my fun and the fun of many others who have the same conditions as myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariochie9771 View Post
    why should i be put in to a position where i have to ask for help you were not.
    Like for example, not all people can clear some battles in the game. Somebody might have slower reaction times, and maybe they need help from people who have the brain for that sort of thing. Your solution would be reducing complexity of all battles so that people only need to pay attention to 1 thing at a time and it is more inclusive to people who are unable to multitask and react fast. It is ok to need help or know your limitations.

    I don't have your specific condition but there's plenty of stuff I can't do in life. If you try to design something to be inclusive of all people then you are left with nothing. Audio cues to ping when job gauge is full is discriminatory against deaf people? Remove audio for everyone. Some people can't read, remove all text, etc.
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    Okay so firstly this is not the same at all - please don't try to make it the same.

    Audio cues to ping when job gauge is full is discriminatory against deaf people - they have a system in place for this, they have made this equal.

    Some people can't read - its called Audio description, again a system in place for this, they have made this equal.

    My point i have been making - if you would read is THIS EVENT did not have a system in place for people with my conditions. I'm the one with medically diagnosed conditions yet you are the ones who are failing to see the point - again possibly because you have not got any disability which relates to this matter. I have said over and over THIS EVENT there was no system in place which made it equal for people with my conditions.

    Love this comment mind "who have the brain for that sort of thing" are you implying because of my condition i am stupid because that what it seems like. Do me a favor be quiet from now on.
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    Noone is born equal. Discrimination is a part of natural order. If someone with dyslexia is unable then he should seek alternative solutions or accept that they are not up to the task.
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