CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[Bowen]

Basically every single one of THM's spells aside from dia and banish scream Black Mage. Whatever history the word thaumaturgy has is not relevant considering it has not been relevant until now either.

In fact, this game would be much better off if the elemental nukes were removed completely or combined together. The game needs focused actions that have always a use, preferably multidimensional at that. The franchise traditions are crippling it's evolution into something much better. CNJ can have elemental nukes that have nothing to do with Black Magic of past FF's and XIV's BLM does not 'need' elemental nukes either.

Would you care to list the spells that resemble BLM to me?
I'm pretty sure someone made a list of all the CNJ and THM spells a while back. What was it. . . Klive? Something like that. . . Or maybe I don't remember at all. xD

[Betelgeuzah]

Would you care to list the spells that resemble BLM to me?
I'm pretty sure someone made a list of all the CNJ and THM spells a while back. What was it. . . Klive? Something like that. . . Or maybe I don't remember at all. xD

Posting from my phone so nope. Lots of names dealing with dark, blood, shadow etc. I'd be impressed if you can manage to build a WHM or even a miracle worker out of blood rite, gravity, drain, shadowsear, and similar spells.

I wouldn't necessarily showhorn elemental magic into 'black magic' although that might be the tradition. All this dark, bloody, shadowy stuff is much more straightforward.

[Klive]

Would you care to list the spells that resemble BLM to me?
I'm pretty sure someone made a list of all the CNJ and THM spells a while back. What was it. . . Klive? Something like that. . . Or maybe I don't remember at all. xD

That was me, I did lost a research, looking into previous FF titles, and current lore to get a justified belief of which class to each job.

Here is the thread (post #37)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...dmg-mage/page4

Honestly. The CNJ spell list is more of a copy and paste job from the Scholar from FF11.
here is the link to the Scholar Spell list in FF11.
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Scholar

[Bowen]

That was me, I did lost a research, looking into previous FF titles, and current lore to get a justified belief of which class to each job.

Here is the thread (post #37)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...dmg-mage/page4

I thought so. I would have done the same myself if I had not seen your post first.