I do it a lot of times just to work on my single target rotation. Especially if there's already a heavy AOE damage job in my group.

I do it a lot of times just to work on my single target rotation. Especially if there's already a heavy AOE damage job in my group.



I always found a pattern to this. It's always the lower-end players that call out people for being elitist.
Giving advice on how to play a job more optimal isn't being elitist, it's actually learning to be more beneficial to everyone. You may remember one key point about your job and that could change your experience for the better in the game.
You'd be surprised to learn that higher-end players don't actually give that kind of flack in-return to learning to play better, in-fact many want to learn more from players they consider good.



Uh? I don't recall for NIN, but MNK does Rockbreaker at two enemies. Last I checked, 130*2 is better than 170 on one. You don't Arm of the Destroyer unless there was at least four. Howling Fist is oGCD. Unsure if that is still the case for 4.0, but that's what it was for all of Heavensward. What's probably not factored in with these tests ('cause you can't really see unless they publish how they tested it) is if they did straight AoE (again, MNK does Arm at 4+) and no DoTs (which they should still be doing at 3) or using single target, placing DoTs on multiple enemies. Considering three mobs was already putting MNK at less-than-efficient AoEing, it doesn't surprise me that single target killing three mobs was faster. This was already known and published in [good] guides.
There's correct testing and testing done badly. Not even accounting for sample size and the factoring of crits (which is a HUGE thing to account for on NIN especially- crit Doton is a huge AoE boon).
Last edited by JunseiKei; 08-24-2017 at 10:17 AM.
My previous post got deleted for something unrelated (I believe) to what I said in a reply to you, so I will say it again..I enjoy the people and though I do advocate for PF a speed run if slower players upset you or keep you from meeting your goals.I play like... 3-5 characters and slow doesn't always get my caps in. I might enjoy helping new players and taking my time in df but thats why I only que that way if I have time to be in the moment with the party and perhaps have good, abeit slower, time.
This thread is not about speed, or players that would prefer "a slower run".
Nor is it about players who don't want to do a single-pack run.
This thread is not about whether people should pull groups or do singles in a dungeon.. I don't think anyone here is really complaining about that so much..
This is about a DPS adjusting to what the tank pulls.
If a tank has more than 4 mobs on them, then all DPS jobs should be using their AoE skills. End of story.
Tanks run out of buffs.
Healers run out of buffs & MP.
Not killing the mobs fast enough because 1 or both of the DPS decide they want to practice their single target rotation, or do not believe in using AoE for some reason or another is only putting excess stress on the tank and healer.
The tank is the player who sets the pace of a dungeon.
If the tank decides to pull 10 mobs, then the DPS should be adjusting to this and using AoE skills.
If they are only pulling a single pack, then DPS should generally be doing single target at 3 or less (varies depending on job).
There is literally no argument for the counter here.
Again, I will highlight the point for clarity.
It's not about whether you want to do a speed run or a slow run - it's about adjusting to the rest of your party and performing your job as a DPS, depending on how many mobs are in play.
That is what striking dummies, the dungeon bosses, and Stone, Sky, Sea is for.
When there are 4 or more mobs, you should be using AoE skills.
You're literally causing the other 3 players in your party unnecessary stress.
Last edited by Altena; 08-24-2017 at 11:33 AM.
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