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  1. #81
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I wish they had 5 million active subscriptions, sadly is more like 500,000. So while selling the boxed software and subscriptions will keep the lights on, the mogststion helps pay for the nice things. We get plenty of free glams, the paid glams helps cover the costs of the feee stuff.
    Then they did not do a good business plan.
    If they still need money after our sub there are 2 explanations :
    - The fee is not enough aka they have to many ambitions
    - The money is not used how it should be ("given to other departments, shareholders whatever)

    One way our another, not our problem and not our responsibility to pay if they did not anticipate. Tones of games survived with only one system sub or F2P, going for the 2 of them is just being greedy IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  2. #82
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    Clover Blake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I wish they had 5 million active subscriptions, sadly is more like 500,000. So while selling the boxed software and subscriptions will keep the lights on, the mogststion helps pay for the nice things. We get plenty of free glams, the paid glams helps cover the costs of the feee stuff.
    I agree. This game is updated pretty often and we get tons of events. I believe that we also get more items per update than we used to back in the early days. It's not like the cashshop is pushy or getting updated often with exclusives; quite the opposite. So if it can help the game grow, or at least maintain its current influx of updates (which isn't exactly scarce), isn't it a win/win situation for everyone?
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    I agree. This game is updated pretty often and we get tons of events. I believe that we also get more items per update than we used to back in the early days. It's not like the cashshop is pushy or getting updated often with exclusives; quite the opposite. So if it can help the game grow, or at least maintain its current influx of updates (which isn't exactly scarce), isn't it a win/win situation for everyone?
    So you are saying you are ok to buy the game, pay the fee, pay the extra fee for extra retainers, pay the expansions and pay the exclusives in the Ca$h $hop ?
    About glamour, aren't you a little bit mad that they keep reusing the same outfits again and again and again (even for the last event we add a recolor !) while putting original ones in C$ ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  4. #84
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    To be fair, we know from FFXV's development cycle that money made through FFXIV isn't necessarily going back into FFXIV. Sometimes it goes into other projects - which is good in some cases but arguably bad in others if those projects are blatant cash grabs.

    I believe the developers aren't to blame for that, though - since the Mog Station supposedly isn't controlled by Yoshi-P.
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  5. #85
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    E'gao Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Something akin to "devs should do this out of passion"
    We get a lot back for it. I'm okay with paying for all that. The game is obviously needed to buy to play it. The fee ensures that all the servers can keep running and let us get constant updates. The extra retainers, while being really really useful, are not a necessity, the expainsions contain a ton of stuff so you can't expect not having to pay for them and the cash shop is optional (though at least the /playdead emote feels like it should be in the game...).
    The moonfire outfit we got was highly requested, and while I originally was a bit dissapointed by it too, I personally love it! It is the same base as the shisui set, sure, but it is reworked to look more like a swimsuit and you don't need to grind the same dungeon over and over, plus you can dye it. I'm glad we got it.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    while putting original ones in C$ ?
    Hyperbole.

    We've had more original gear from events than the Mog Station.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  7. #87
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    Luna Luorc'a
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    Just want the hat of the female but i dont think they will give part by part and a pack . Nvm , if it come in mogstation i will not buy it just for that xD
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  8. #88
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    Don't like them. It makes sense they put exclusive traditional items to the countries they are doing business in. After all the Korean and Chinese markets are separate from the "vanilla" game. They can give them as much traditional content as they want. People make way too much fuss about those items. But fear not you will be able to spend your real money when they come to Mog Station.
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  9. #89
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    Kaja White
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    I really want the hair piece from the female set. Don't care for the rest, but that hair piece ;A;
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  10. #90
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    Are those outfits all in their cash shop? I mean those regions are also paying a sub so they are milking them quite hard with all these cash shop addition..is this still a P2P game because with all the cash shop costumes it really feels more like F2P for me...

    Also I am a bit upset that somehow they are not able to give us a unique nice looking outfit for the summer event and yet they can create one outfit after the other for these regions..if these all come over to our cash shop it will truly be the biggest one from all the P2P MMOs..not sure if that is something one should be proud of..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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