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  1. #11
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    Rydin's Avatar
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    No wyvern for DRG, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?
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    Kipp Kaida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondude View Post
    In the screen shots from 2.0 you notice a chocobo in party with the others as a member of the party. I think its called the "buddy system" right now. Dragoon will not be a pet class, but they may be able to have a dragon buddy that nobody else has access too. I started a thread about this and i think in the first 10 post someone posted the information from the dev team on how the pet system works check it out.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...highlight=pets
    I'd much rather this for Dragoon than having so many mini summons. Summoner is to bring in extra mobs for DPS. Dragoon is for jump and crit attacks.
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    even if they did not nerf the Dragoon to compensate for the wyvern I still would not care to have one, I really dont want to play a pet class, I want to be a polearm wielding spike of doom that only has to rely on his own skills to be such and not that of a wyvern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I'd much rather this for Dragoon than having so many mini summons. Summoner is to bring in extra mobs for DPS. Dragoon is for jump and crit attacks.
    I would rather have this than none at all, but how are you going to balance it? If you are among the strongest DD and you can summon a wyvern then there needs to be some sort of balance. Idk if all players can summon a chocobo for battle or if it will be restricted in the future to say Bst, but then you can't make the wyvern too strong compared to what the other jobs can summon as an NPC pt member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    No wyvern for DRG, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?
    Not sure if I understand, but something like doing 15 dmg + 10 dmg from wyvern, and then when you combine weapon skill for example you can do more damage than you would on your own. This is just a general idea, doesn't have to be like this.
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    Last edited by Reliquia; 11-09-2011 at 07:06 AM.

  5. #15
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    Quichy Sturmbruch
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    sometimes it seems to me in this dragoon /wyvern discussion... that all lancers want to see them doing XXXXDMG on their own... instead of splitted up with two charas.

    well i hate the fact that lancer became so popular since the ifrit videos on youtube. it seems to me they picked the class because its THE damage dealing melee class at the moment.. and thats why they want no wyvern pet

    <------> pe*** size


    well i will accept both of types now... im looking forward to what SE is doing about the drg job. lets see if its stylish enough without the wyvern... well lets see.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliquia View Post
    I would rather have this than none at all, but how are you going to balance it? If you are among the strongest DD and you can summon a wyvern then there needs to be some sort of balance. Idk if all players can summon a chocobo for battle or if it will be restricted in the future to say Bst, but then you can't make the wyvern too strong compared to what the other jobs can summon as an NPC pt member.
    Well the point in having the chocobo act as a party member is when you can't get the last 1 or 2 party members you need. The wyvern would serve the same purpose. The chocobos do different things per color I think they said. Maybe the Wyvern can focus on being a side tank or something? Or occupying the mob for a limited time? Or they can simply attack with different debuffs like DoT's and what not. They can do a lot with it.

    BUT...

    my opinion remains the same. I just don't want 5 wyverns PLUS my 8 other party members in a fight PLUS the mobs we are fighting. It's clumped up enough as it is with 8 people plus mobs. Keep them as an active party member or don't have them at all :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliquia View Post
    If your drg could have a wyvern and still be as successful as lancer is now, deliver top notch DPS and be popular at xp parties and end-game content, would you then accept the idea of dragoon?
    I would like this post, if that would not start trend 5x Dragoon in the party.
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    You could also make the argument that people only want the wyvern just for vanity. Personally i don't care either way, I have stuck by dragoon since the beginning I don't plan on changing that now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliquia View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    No wyvern for DRG, camp spot site with 30 dmg, but is it for 20 like 30 dmg when you no hit be it for dd, for 30 dmg instead? or half is 10 for 20 dmg?
    Not sure if I understand, but something like doing 15 dmg + 10 dmg from wyvern, and then when you combine weapon skill for example you can do more damage than you would on your own. This is just a general idea, doesn't have to be like this.
    so 10 dmg IS the shoot of RNG if DRG camp spot. party shoot 30 but be 20 if camp spot site took takes half dmg. right or rong.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    my opinion remains the same. I just don't want 5 wyverns PLUS my 8 other party members in a fight PLUS the mobs we are fighting. It's clumped up enough as it is with 8 people plus mobs. Keep them as an active party member or don't have them at all :/
    oh my god... are you a pro player or not? if you are a good player you dont care about that kind of fact.what are you doing when you're playing in an ally or in a massive pvp battle later on? rofl*

    the classes in DarkAgeOfCamelot.. the theurgist for example could summon of about 15 pets (pet spamming class) or the bonedancer summoning 4 constant skelett warriors at a time.. so please get a bit more skill and you're fine with this..

    boredom as its best. like the motto "against variety!"
    I say "yes" to petclasses!


    thank god, yoshida loves also pet jobs as well ;=)
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 11-09-2011 at 07:31 AM.

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