Dear Healers who don't DPS

[Maeka]

@Taika:

Yoshida: Yes. Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well. For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

Eh, you bolded the wrong part. Lemme try again for you:

Yoshida: Yes. Since all DPS jobs will be increasing up through level 60, it makes sense to have the white mage's DPS extend by a proportional amount as well. For development, such as with Bahamut's Coils, the development team assumes what the item level should be for general equipment on players when they clear a raid. They sum up the basic DPS for four DPS and tanks at that assumed item level and cut that by about 10-15% for the minimum clear DPS. Healer DPS is not taken into account when this is set.

So... if a raid drops i350 or whatever, they are going to take the possible DPS of a group of i350 players and then cut that by 10-15% and set that as minimum clear DPS.

Now, players are going in without full capping Creation (because it is mathematically impossible to have full Creation gear yet) so they are likely wearing a mix of 1-2 pieces of Creation and the rest are Omega/Verity/Extreme Primal gear. This means that yes, you are entering Savage with less-than-optimal gear and he said that if you do this, yes you will need healer DPS.

Try this again at full i330 and you will find that it should be possible (theoretically) to clear it with no (or very little) healer DPS.

But of course, nobody wants to wait to get full Creation. Oh no, they have to clear all 4 Omegas within the first week.

But why are we even talking about Savage Raids? This has nothing to do with random PUGs in stuff up to and through Expert and normal Omega, which does NOT need Healer DPS whatsoever.

Trying to use Savage as an example of what healers should be doing in normal stuff is just ridiculous. Not everybody is a tryhard world-first raider. Sorry, but we're not. Don't like it? Tough.

[Taika]

But of course, nobody wants to wait to get full Creation. Oh no, they have to clear all 4 Omegas within the first week.

My whole point was, if you want to do Savage now instead of waiting for many weeks or even months, you will need healer DPS, even if your DDs and tanks would be the best in the whole world. And that if your DDs and tanks would happen to be of average skill, you will require healer DPS for a long time after that (possibly even after all of you are in that full tome set). And lastly, that asking your DDs and tanks to push at least 85-90% of their optimal maximum performance just so that you and your healing partner could slack (= perform at way, way lower level of effectiveness than what you're asking from their DDs and tanks) is not reasonable.

But why are we even talking about Savage Raids?

Because you brought them up on the previous page and I was replying to you in my previous post?

Outside of Savage, healer DPS is not required to beat content, that's a fact. But that doesn't mean healers shouldn't (be asked to) DPS if they're able to do so (if they are familiar with content, no one is in any danger and they have plenty of MP). All players, no matter their job, should aim to be as useful to their party as possible in all content. For healers, after the healing requirements for the content are covered, the only way they can be useful is to do DPS. Their other options are doing nothing or overhealing, neither of which help their party in any way.