Just realized something: FFXIV is a terrible DPS player's DREAM come true...

[RichardButte]

Yet another we want a parser thread. Not going to happen.

They already exist, actually, and SE knows they exist and doesn't aggressively punish people for using them (if they do so at all).

This thread is about how DPS can be terrible their entire existence, until they get to raiding where DPS checks exist and then suddenly and without warning are faced with how bad they are.

[Delily]

I just want a parser for PS4. Even if it is just a self-parser, it would help me know if I was improving. I can't think of a single reason that the game shouldn't give you a score at the end of a duty at the very least so you can compare yourself to others of your class/job. Just a thought.

At the end of the day, your individual performance is meaningless. From PUG guildheists and dungeons to static savage raids, it's about teamwork. Want to know how well you did? Well, did your group clear the content? If so, you're fine.

[ThunderGodThor]

At the end of the day, your individual performance is meaningless. From PUG guildheists and dungeons to static savage raids, it's about teamwork. Want to know how well you did? Well, did your group clear the content? If so, you're fine.

Clearing is an awful way to determine whether an individual player is performing well.

[Kaurhz]

Well, I'm definitely confused by how they insist on nearly every encounter having an enrage, yet not letting us get any indication of performance without using third party software. I'm personally on the side of giving us an indication on how we performed in the given instance. Toxic players will be toxic players whether they do, or do not have a parser. Just look at a vast majority of mentors that do roulette..

I'd like to improve, as I'm pretty much sure there's room for improving *myself*, and frankly doing SSS isn't going to be any indication worth a damn.

[Cenerae]

I feel like at the very least they could include a results screen in SSS indicating your total DPS when you finish.

The fact that the only way to work it out right now is to use an external website (or a parser) is a little silly. The entire point of SSS is to check your personal performance after all.

[Jybril]

DPS parse should only be in Static Raids only or a self-parse.
I don't want to be screamed at by someone because my DPS isn't on point
in minor dungeons. No one should screech at someone in Sastasha on their 1-2 click rotations lol.

[BubblyBoar]

But here we have DPS that have no clear signs of when they are making mistakes in their play in their specific role (DPS) when simple dungeons are being failed, then fingers start being pointed at random people for that reason. One person who might be doing really great DPS will have the finger pointed at them because there's no way to check in-game to see who is causing the team to lose.

And like I said, just run a parser. It doesn't need to be in game. If they don't believe you, or ask for proof, they are just making excuses and don't want to get better. You can totally bullshit and just say you watched how they played and noticed they weren't playing as well. And if they refuse to get better, just kick them or leave the dungeon. A person like that doesn't want to get better. They already think they are great and will just make excuses. parser being in-game will only make them deny things even harder and make even more excuses. It's not going to solve anything.

Please stop acting like there are these magical reasonable players that need to see actual parsing data nd go "Oh, maybe I was bad, I'll try and be a good DPS now." Because those people are already trying or already parsing.

[Shurrikhan]

Please stop acting like there are these magical reasonable players that need to see actual parsing data nd go "Oh, maybe I was bad, I'll try and be a good DPS now." Because those people are already trying or already parsing.

I've run into some 20 of exactly those kinds of people. (Sadly that's about equal to how many I've seen say "how about I'll play how I like and you can deal with it" or have threatened to try to ban anyone who asked to shape up.) I've also seen people seek friends out to parse them on a dummy or over a dungeon run (surprisingly often, they're worried less about their fixed rotation than their number sense and general priorities, so to speak, which a longer run may bring more insight towards) because either they can't get theirs to work or are on PS3/4. There certainly are those players who at present are without parsers but can nonetheless make use of them. They're no huge crowd, but they're not mythical creatures.

[RichardButte]

Well, I'm definitely confused by how they insist on nearly every encounter having an enrage, yet not letting us get any indication of performance without using third party software.

This.

It's 100% contradictory.

Imagine trying to play as a healer and not being able to see the HP of your party members, instead having to guess who is injured and who isn't.

That's basically DPS as a role right now...

[Cherie]

As far as I recall the whole "parser" thing was "don't ask, don't tell" right? They aren't allowed though for sure.

Anyway, people are always going to judge you regardless of a parser or not. Sheesh, I mean I've had people judge me for what dps job I play... I had this blm that only spammed that ice aoe thing judge me as a "low dps" because he said bards suck... Like um, excuse me sir, Mr. Ice Mage... pls.,.. just no

Really you don't need a parser for expert roulette or even extreme primals or anything like that. So I don't know why people are asking for one. Sure some people are going to be bad... the same people not pulling their weight in dps are probably going to be bad at dodging mechanics too. Eventually they just leave your party in frustration because bashing their head into a wall didn't end with them getting their weapon and a free doggo... They will probably blame everyone else for their deaths and say they can't carry you anymore and then they leave. Then someone else joins and you clear it first try.... yay Gee, I wonder who was the weakest link? :P

But for savage content, well parsing isn't allowed. But I'm sure that even if people can't judge you for your dps openly, they will probably just silently judge you. There really is no getting around being judged if you are playing in a competitive environment...but yea in expert roulette you can go in with no armor and a lvl1 weapon and I probably won't kick you unless you did it so you could just die on purpose and you told me that from your own mouth. It's so easy we could still win with you unarmored. But yea that doesn't work in savage omega.