Do we have any reason to believe Susano is a primal?

[basketofseals]

So far as we can tell, there's no specific "ritual" for the summoning of a Primal besides a fervent wish and an abundance of aether nearby. If people, even a single person, prays hard enough and there is enough aether in the area, the Primal appears. Gilgamesh accidentally summoning Enkidu is a good example.

But there has to be something to it right? Otherwise the people mining the crystals would be summoning giant breakfast burritos or whatever whenever they were hungry. The Ascians certainly imply it's something you have to know how to do.

[ElHeggunte]

But there has to be something to it right? Otherwise the people mining the crystals would be summoning giant breakfast burritos or whatever whenever they were hungry. The Ascians certainly imply it's something you have to know how to do.

Maybe. Because they do make it a point several times to mention how the Ascians are "teaching" beast tribes and other individuals how to summon. However, it can't be a method that's too specific when there are multiple cases of accidental summoning.

[Kazrah]

But there has to be something to it right?

Nope, especially given how many cases of primals being summoned by accident, including Susano. As long as there's enough of an aetheric source (i.e. the three treasures) and an incentive for the primal to exist in the material plane (i.e. loyal followers, rival competition, fun, etc.), then TA DA, primal.

As for the Ascians on primals, I'd wager that all they would've taught the beast tribes is that aetheric crystals are the key and that their gods (to a beast tribe, their primal is usually their god) require persuasion to be brought out (hence the elements of worship).

[blindfoldedkaos]

Susanno is a primal, kojin believe in kami residing in all things, given that you walked into a treasure vault, with 3 highly regarded items, and prob surrounded by aether/crystals and a ton of things believed to house kami and the 3 treasures, all triggered Susanno to appear.

[Spiroglyph]

Yeah, he drops a mount, a TT card, AND expensive crafting materials on top of having a minion!

[Rawrz]

Susano'o is an irregular type of primal much like Odin. the kojin found 2 pieces out of 3 that were parts of Susano'o 's being you notice how he says "we" instead of "i" meaning that the 3 pieces are separate entities its exactly how zantetsuken is a part of odin an becomes whole when someone picks it up. the kojin being no strangers to Kami and the divine could hear the 3 pieces of Susano'o longing to be whole and so they tasked you the player with reuniting them however they were unawares that the pieces would summon a god, even the red kojin were confused and had just assumed Susano'o was a kami of their treasure hoard. when Susano'o was first summoned we don't know all we do know is that Susano'o is definitely primal-like as he divined that we were enemies to the red kojin and for their part in protecting its sword and mirror Susano'o offered to fight on their behalf even tho we involuntarily summoned it.

The way I see it, the kojin still summoned Susano. I think a long time ago the kojin created the idea that the three pieces belonged together. Pouring their prayer into it, just like they do to all their treasures since their gods live in every beautiful object before them. When the blue and red seperated the blue took a single piece with them. This catalyzed their beliefs. Now the red kojin and blue kojin believe that the three objects long to be reunited, their belief in the kamis within the pieces grow more fervent than their standard belief of their gods... time passed. Each piece bursting with aether. The blue filled one. The red filled two.

The ritual wasn't necessarily having all three pieces reunited. It was having all three peices united under the distraught gaze of a kojin. If the kojin never saw the three pieces returned together, Susano, I doubt would have manifested.

[Arutan]

What would define a primal to me is just a summon with a lot of aetheral power, most often from crystal, and then followers, tho the later doesn't apply for all, Odin and mostly Susano since his appearance was so short we don't even know if it's one of the Koji's deity, actually I think it wasn't at first but since it came from their treasure I believe they insta worshiped him.