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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Instead of calling out one person, maybe actually get together as a group and get better? Also, based on some other threads I've been lurking on, apparently it's easy to tell just from watching other people to see if they are doing bad or not so again, why do you need a parser when you can tell who is doing bad without one and the game was not built for a parser?
    Are you mad? How can you tell if someone is doing bad? By their enmity bar or something? I don't know about you but the last thing I'm doing is watching other players cast bars and movements while doing endgame. I'm doing that thing you claim is all you need to do. Mechanics. Of course, I'm not doing crap tier DPS though
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  2. #172
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    They should add in parsing so that the times where the DPS contributes the most, people will know and commend them for it at the end of the run.
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  3. #173
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    What you should do is let the community decide. Make a poll and you'll soon see the bulk of the community wants some sort of representation. The OP is 100% right, DPS are not accounted for nor rewarded. You can work your hardest and get zero comms. This needs to change
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
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    lol, nice ad hominem, I'll humor you. You have no idea how I play the game. I haven't even got into endgame Savage yet and no one has complained about my lack of doing rotations and in fact, people commend me because I actually seem to know what I'm doing, without a parser! Gasp unbelievable I know.

    And having a parser doesn't make a person better. All it does is make people be toxic and again, wave their e-peens around. Having a parser wouldn't make me better and I know a lot where it wouldn't make others better either so your argument is moot. Again, apparently there are ways to tell if a dps is doing crappy without a parser. There are other ways too improve without a parser. It's not necessary and again, if it was, SE would have built them into the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
    The OP is 100% right, DPS are not accounted for nor rewarded. You can work your hardest and get zero comms. This needs to change
    Not for sure what your problem is, I get commendations all the time for being a dps.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    They should add in parsing so that the times where the DPS contributes the most, people will know and commend them for it at the end of the run.
    Pretty much what I do and most likely why I ever get commendations as a DPS (took awhile to join the 3000 commendation club).
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Instead of calling out one person, maybe actually get together as a group and get better? Also, based on some other threads I've been lurking on, apparently it's easy to tell just from watching other people to see if they are doing bad or not so again, why do you need a parser when you can tell who is doing bad without one and the game was not built for a parser?
    1. Those threads referred to casual content / drastic indications of poor play. Most players will not know that an early Geirskogul rotation is ideal for x fight under y circumstances, etc., etc., let alone be on the look out for every oGCD sync and CD match-up.
    2. What makes a game any more or less "built for a parser". If anything, XIV is built for a parser more most, in that it actually has dedicated datalogs by which to parse, rather than requiring network interception. WoW and others have this as well, but not all games that have parsers can make do with non-interceptive parsing.
    3. How do you intend to improve "as a group", when you have little idea how each person is faring? If you mean this in terms of a strategy meeting over relative potency spreadsheets, then I suppose this is possible. If you're talking "huddle up, and let's talk this out so we can all have our heads in the game", you'd be actively hampering that goal by neglecting objective performance metrics, likely irritating those who are already performing maximally, and would find yourself much less able to spot the problems as they occur.
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  7. #177
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    LMAO non raider says we don't need parsers and thinks he's doing ok! Your point is invalid and further cements the OP. DPS do not get called out for doing bad DPS cos there's no way to tell. Parsers are needed cos i assure you, you'd get called out daily.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
    LMAO non raider says we don't need parsers and thinks he's doing ok! Your point is invalid and further cements the OP. DPS do not get called out for doing bad DPS cos there's no way to tell. Parsers are needed cos i assure you, you'd get called out daily.
    Lol, we'll see since I am going to enter Savage soon. If I catch anyone is using parsers, I'll report them in an instant. I'll leave this here in case you missed it the first time:

    2.5 Data Mining. You may not intercept, mine or otherwise collect information from the Game using unauthorized third party software.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Lol, we'll see since I am going to enter Savage soon. If I catch anyone is using parsers, I'll report them in an instant. I'll leave this here in case you missed it the first time:
    And when you join the raiding community they're gonna call you out every single time for being bad. I cannot wait
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  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
    And when you join the raiding community they're gonna call you out every single time for being bad. I cannot wait
    I love proving people like you wrong. I run across your type all the time and it gives me one of the last few satisfactions in life. :P
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