We need a "remove all from house" option, BEFORE Kugane opens

[RichardButte]

Fun fact: if a player is logged in somewhere inside your house (UPDATE: or even standing anywhere on the plot), you cannot demolish or relinquish your plot of land.

I'm guessing this will apply to moving your house to Kugane as well.

So to prevent the most diabolical trolling ever (or just an absent-minded FC member who genuinely meant no harm but you'll probably want to strangle anyway), can we please have an option in the housing menu that simply teleports everyone currently inside the house to the entrance to the housing ward?

Yes, it would have to override things like crafting as well (maybe start a 60 second countdown that warns everyone in the house that they need to vacate before it kicks them), but I'm sure people can see how badly this could be abused, here.

This has also been a giant PITA for people who have wanted to buy a new plot that just opened but had someone AFK inside their house. Really, this feature would be awesome for a number of reasons, Kugane just being the latest.

Here's an example where someone almost didn't get a plot they wanted due to an AFK FC member in their house:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-private-house

You can lock the house in the days leading up to Kugane, but the problem is that I'm sure many, MANY people who plan to move don't know that they cannot relinquish land if there's someone in the house (since they've probably never relinquished land or tried to do so with someone in the house) and will find themselves longing (read: raging) for this exact feature...

UPDATE: You apparently also cannot move is someone is standing on your plot at all...

As far as I know, it's enough to be in the garden. When i relinquished my last fc plot to move, a few memebers were still standing in the yard so it didn't work.

So this option would need to boot people to the entrance to the residential ward to ensure they don't simply step back onto the plot after removing them.

[Rymm]

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Why not just lock the house a day or two before?

[RichardButte]

before Shirogane opens there will be a maintenance -> maintenance means forced logout for everyone -> noone can be inside the house for the opening of Shirogane

But again, all it takes is one person logging in and going inside the house to prevent this from happening.

Why not just lock the house a day or two before?

Yes, but not everyone may know that this is going to be an issue.

And that aside, the option to kick everyone out of the house should've been in the game ages ago anyway. I've read horror threads where a person wanted to buy a new plot but couldn't relinquish due to a FC member standing AFK in the house with no way to contact or remove them.

[JunseiKei]

A better question: Why not have the demolish, relinquish force the person out automatically? Simply having a force teleport because the option demolish/relinquish (or whatever they implement for house moving) was selected should solve this.

[SendohJin]

A better question: Why not have the demolish, relinquish force the person out automatically? Simply having a force teleport because the option demolish/relinquish (or whatever they implement for house moving) was selected should solve this.

well for 1 if they are crafting inside the house will they lose all their mats?

[JunseiKei]

well for 1 if they are crafting inside the house will they lose all their mats?

Yes, just like getting disconnected. I'd assume for any FC or house, there would probably be a notice going on for at least a week. It'd be on the crafter for the loss of their mats for ignoring guild events. For personal housing, I really doubt that the person you'd share a house with wouldn't tell you.

Did you all forget the previously announced and discussed housing transfer system that is meant to be ready before the new wards open?

Honestly, I might have been gushing over other things and didn't catch it. The last I heard was just an announcing there would be a system in place, but there were 0 details, or hardly any real important details. Only that it'd be "disclosed at a later date." Happen to have a link to any mentioned details? (This is a serious question- some of the translaters do less than stellar jobs because on-the-fly translating is hard, but you still end up missing details or just straight up incorrect translations due to the nature of on-the-fly translations). I know if someone still inside a house could prevent a house transfer, that'd be a possibility worth worrying over to bring to their attention.

Also, lots of people don't keep up with live letters. Some argue they don't want any kind of story spoilers, but then they lose out on other information.

[RichardButte]

Honestly, I might have been gushing over other things and didn't catch it. The last I heard was just an announcing there would be a system in place, but there were 0 details, or hardly any real important details. Only that it'd be "disclosed at a later date." Happen to have a link to any mentioned details? (This is a serious question- some of the translaters do less than stellar jobs because on-the-fly translating is hard, but you still end up missing details or just straight up incorrect translations due to the nature of on-the-fly translations). I know if someone still inside a house could prevent a house transfer, that'd be a possibility worth worrying over to bring to their attention.

Also, lots of people don't keep up with live letters. Some argue they don't want any kind of story spoilers, but then they lose out on other information.

This.

I would be astonished if Kugane rolls around and we don't have at least one furious post in general from someone who went to move their house but had an AFKer (or just flat out got trolled by someone being in their house).

[Kosmos992k]

Did you all forget the previously announced and discussed housing transfer system that is meant to be ready before the new wards open?

[Remedi]

Did you all forget the previously announced and discussed housing transfer system that is meant to be ready before the new wards open?

They did, better make so they can remember it

edit: I noticed only now that the wording was incorrect, I wanted to reinforce this quote and give it more visibility

[Kosmos992k]

They did better make so they can remember it

There's this from live letter XXXV...

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...285-18-2017%29

Q&A
0:22:55

Q: I would like to know the details of the house moving system! I would appreciate if you could let us know how the feature works and the steps required.

A: In Stormblood, we will introduce a new housing area called Shirogane. Players will not be able to purchase housing at the launch of 4.0; however, they will be able to visit the housing area. The moving feature will be implemented at the same timing that the housing plots become available for purchase. Additionally, players will be able to purchase an apartment in Shirogane as well.

As for the feature itself, the steps in which the players need to take is pretty simple. When accessing the sign board of the plot to purchase, players will be presented with an option to move, so they will just need to select that option. You will then be required to purchase the land.

When moving, all the existing outdoor and indoor furnishings will be stored into a new storage space of the newly purchased house. It would be possible to retain the original housing layout; however, when moving to a different sized plot would cause the placement to be different. Therefore, we decided to take this approach.

The moving feature will transfer the personal chambers, company chest, company workshop, and airship voyage status, as well as the chocobo stables.

0:26:21

Q: Is the timing for purchasing plots in Shirogane the same for free companies and individuals?

A: We are currently in the middle of investigating how much of the population owns housing, so this hasn't been decided yet. We will look into this a bit more before making a decision.

This confirms that moving will be as simple as selecting to move prior to purchasing the plot and that moving to a new house does not restrict you to the same size of plot. It also explains how all the contents of the FC house will be moved as well.