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  1. #11521
    Player
    Zhamkyong's Avatar
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    Nizbalial Vegalia
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    What do you mean "only a matter of time"?

    Also, it says a lot about a player when the very first instanced fight you do in the RDM questline has X'rhun take a very specific timeout just to tell you about a level 1 trait of the job, and said player still doesn't know about it.
    I have encountered some players that struggled with RDM but were willing to hear and learn the basic steps and some hints. I also encountered players that tried to shut me saying "sorry, I am [insert nationality here] I don't speak English". Then I proceeded to ask a pause to the party then translate my tips with a traductor. I know it probably wasn't a perfect message but-well, it happened to me twice and they always ignored the messages onward. It was not difficult to kick them.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiquSuke View Post
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    Aaaand some players are unwilling to listen to complete a run where mechanics are needed or simply are unaware of the chat until they need to use it or just ignore it. That seemed... Painful.
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    Last edited by Zhamkyong; 08-18-2017 at 07:57 AM.

  2. #11522
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    My 50/60 Roulette today went something like this.

    Queue and get dropped into in progress Amdapor Keep, 8 minutes in. I'm WHM because farming verity for mats with a WAR, RDM and NIN sprout. I open with my usual "Hi, hows it going?" to see if they'll tell me what the issue was and someone responds "Bad healer". I look, the person who responded is the tank. DPS are both silent apart from their own welcome.

    I am already suspicipus, they haven't made it to a boss yet but don't have protect on which means they either wiped to trash or the healer was so bad they didn't cast it.

    The tank pulls the entire courtyard before the first boss and I am confused because if you're speedrunning you don't need to fight all that. He pulls it right up to the gate for the first boss. The one enemy there turns into a Soul Collector which the tank doesn't grab so it aggros on me because of all my spam healing. I wind up Benedictioning myself at 715 health because he clearly isn't grabbing this thing back.

    This is a level 50 dungeon, I don't know about tanks but as a healer I am missing a lot of important abilities at 50. My MP and his health both have their low points and he loses at least one enemy per pull (because he only pulls until there is a barrier stopping him) but usually I can manage. I am swiftcast+cure2ing myself like a boss.

    This is also the kind of tank that will die if you stop casting Cure II long enough to move (because he gives no fucks about aiming AoE away from me) or cast Regen. At one point my health is about 3/4 and I eat an AoE in an effort to heal him thinking I can take it but I can't. I die and they are all dead in the following few seconds.

    To his credit the tank doesn't get snarky per se, he does say "Why'd you die?" though, to which I respond "There were two Hound Lights on me so my health wasn't full and I ate the sword AoE to heal you." This doesn't get a response but he sprints away and does the same pull again. We make it easily because there are less enemies.

    The point is while this was technically faster even with our wipe than a normal run it is not something that you can expect random DF healers to be okay with. The RDM stayed behind after the NIN and WAR left and told me that she didn't think the other healer was bad, she mains an AST and she said she wouldn't have been able to keep up with him. We wound up having a nice little chat about overpulling and the reasonable expectation to enter DF with.

    To that RDM - thank you ma'am, you were wonderful.

    That tank though... They need to reevaluate. To call someone a bad healer because you wiped with 15+ enemies on you is awful. If that healer ever sees this I gotchu fam, you aren't bad, that guy was. Also I got his comm.
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  3. #11523
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    FedoraTheExplorer's Avatar
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    Character
    Roland Umbrosus
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Trying to help my bf tanking. I'm not especially good at advice but I try my best. Anyways, we decide to do Haukke Manor with me on CNJ and ah, our DPS was hm, less than stellar.

    We have a SAM and a BRD pulling left and right for some reason. I ask them to stop. The BRD responds "non" twice, but we made it to the first boss regardless. I see my bf not dodging the AoEs and so I say "you have to dodge the aoes as well"

    the BRD, for some reason, responds "mayonnaise" (???)

    After we get past the boss, the SAM gets aggressive with pulling. The BRD for some reason starts laughing at me so I've had enough. If you want to be a clown? Then die like a clown.

    I votekicked him.

    The SAM, for god knows what reason, decides to pick up trash and starts running... around with it? Like, literally running around the dungeon with these mobs. A SMN joins and unfortunately gets attacked by the mobs. Like. What the hell?

    We decide to lock the idiot out since we'd gotten to the second boss before he pulled the pack off. And thankfully, me, the SMN and my bf get through the rest of the dungeon without much trouble since this SAM was too busy being a tool.

    This run wasn't fun.
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    Last edited by FedoraTheExplorer; 08-18-2017 at 10:07 AM.

  4. #11524
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Character
    Nomfur Farredzasyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FedoraTheExplorer View Post
    the BRD, for some reason, responds "mayonnaise" (???)
    I... what? why mayo of all things? Shoulda said you were more of a tomato ketchup person or something, just to confuse him.

    But that story though... oh dear... you definitely got the bottom of the DF barrel.
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    White Mage ~ Sage ~ Astrologian
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  5. #11525
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    KalinOrthos's Avatar
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    Character
    Kalin Orthos
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Leveling up my SCH and I get slotted into Qarn in progress. 30 minutes in and they're still at this first boss, already pulled despite a healer not being there.

    The SMN was alright, as was the tank, just a bit squishy, but the samurai...

    They were spamming Enpi. Even after we told them how to do your basic H-J-G combo. They seemed to respond overly positive to our advice on how to play, almost condescendingly. It was...a weirdly frustrating and long run.
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  6. #11526
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    MiquSuke's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Miqo Suke
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 64
    Just remembered an older story of mine, let me tell you the story, of the Derp lander of Enigma.

    Doing Cutters cry for the third time since i unlocked it, trying to level up my main job Dragoon. During this run however we had a very strange healer, he never spoke, used protect or regen. We were wiping a lot cause the healer wasn't doing a very good job healing healing and we were getting kinda frustrated, that's when I noticed something, our healer wasn't a white mage...he was a Conjurer. When we noticed this we wondered what this guy was thinking, maybe he forgot to equip his crystal or something...that's what I thought at first until I checked his info...HE DIDN'T HAVE WHITE MAGE UNLOCKED! No but that wasn't the weirdest part mother fker had a lv 51 Gladiator, NOT PALADIN, GLADIATOR! When I told our Warrior and black mage about this we just wondered how the fk this guy made it this far with no jobs! Actually he had 2 jobs, Red Mage and Samurai which at this point I think he unlocked by complete accident! We had NO IDEA what to think of this guy, he was either trolling, had no idea what he was doing, under some sort of self proclaimed challenge, INSANE, or a FREAKING LEGEND IN THE MAKING! Well we didn't want to be mean so suffered with him for while through the dungeon but eventually we had to kick him, keep in mind the guy NEVER USED PROTECT and our tank was very frustrated with this and made his frustration well known. Now I just wonder where he is now, how many classes has gotten to level 50 and many jobs has he never gotten? Weirder still is that I looked up his character's name and found no results, its as if he never existed at all.

    Got some screenshots of it to. (Names censored of course)





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    Last edited by MiquSuke; 08-18-2017 at 11:57 AM.

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  9. #11527
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    Cenerae's Avatar
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    Cenerae Ten'aire
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MiquSuke View Post
    Had to Split this into 3 parts cause it went past the word limit.
    For future reference, you can fit everything into one post by editing it after the fact, which allows you to ignore the character limit.
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  10. #11528
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    MiquSuke's Avatar
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    Miqo Suke
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 64
    thanks for the tip.
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  11. #11529
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    Luciel-Nyx's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Mica Neiri
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    So I have a contribution to this thread after following it for so long...

    ...After the exchange with the RDM about his Ver spells the DRG started using his tether buff on me instead, which I found funny. At the end we commiserated a bit that you just can't force people to be good at their jobs, even if it's the easiest in the game to play. I don't ask a lot of people in DF roulette- just use your abilities and try your best. Ignoring half your spells because it's too much work is just inexcusably lazy.
    I'm sorry you had to go through that :/ It reminds me of bardam I had on my drg - we had sch and sam from the same FC, along with pld that was more or less fine. But the sam apparently had no idea what he was doing. I think I've seen him doing the three signs attack once through the whole dungeons. At trash mobs he seemed very confused, occasionally did the two signs aoe, but otherwise somewhat derped around. In party window at bosses his aggro meter was barely visible and thanks to my, uh, third eye, I was doing more than twice his dmg on drg. At first I was giving him the tether eye buff, but then I switched it to the tank, because even he did more dmg than the sam lol. And the sch was only jumping around for the majority of the run as well :/ At the last boss only me and tank remained standing and killing the thing too. It was not fun and took so long ;-;
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  12. #11530
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    ChameleonMS's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Jordan O'niell
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    So, last night my buddy and I queued for Levelling Roulette as WHM (me) + BLM. We get thousand maws of toto-rak (total crap IMO). We are paired with two sprouts, the tanks claims first run status. Ok, no biggie or so I thought.
    First 3 mob trash pull tank is getting hit hard, really hard, really hard. I check his gear after the pull, he is wearing a Gathering chest piece, crafter gloves and belt, no helmet or rings, and his DoW pieces are between lv13 and 18.
    I ask him about it and he states it is all he has. Ok, we then state, full clear, all chests to the tank. Unfortunately, the random ARC in group did not adhere to this and took 2 pieces of gear along the way.
    I basically was relegated to heal only status for 90% of the run. Poison was absolutely wrecking him, he maintained aggro hardly ever. He did die once but I consider that an achievement given how woefully undergeared he was.
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