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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post


    What of it? Practically every post on this forum is a repeat of one that's already been around at some point.
    I mean look at this post and see peoples reasons why without waiting for people to respond. INFORMATION!!!! WOO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I mean look at this post and see peoples reasons why without waiting for people to respond. INFORMATION!!!! WOO!
    Again, if this thread even changes the mind of 1 person who doesn't AoE in dungeons, then the thread is considered a success. Threads aren't specifically for information, but to open a discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    Again, if this thread even changes the mind of 1 person who doesn't AoE in dungeons, then the thread is considered a success. Threads aren't specifically for information, but to open a discussion.
    Ahh! your goal is informing and influencing, Good luck!
    Big pulls and AOE are awesome for people who wanna get their runs done and have the gear and skills to support it. Not so much for newbies and people who are behind on their gear.
    Forcing new people or .. stubborn.. people into it isn't usually going to work though, I highly commend you for putting your suggestions politely though, it's a courtesy most don't extend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Ahh! your goal is informing and influencing, Good luck!
    Big pulls and AOE are awesome for people who wanna get their runs done and have the gear and skills to support it. Not so much for newbies and people who are behind on their gear.
    Forcing new people or .. stubborn.. people into it isn't usually going to work though, I highly commend you for putting your suggestions politely though, it's a courtesy most don't extend.
    Yep, 3rd post down in this thread highlight my intentions.
    Forums are for discussion more than anything else.

    I won't deny that many people are stubborn in their views, and those people aren't really the target here. Educating new people is something that can be done, and/or educating people who are just unaware that AoE is more efficient on multiple targets.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    For the most part, your level on these roulettes (which I'm assuming it's the 50/60 duty roulette) really matters in terms of why players probably aren't doing AoE. In fact, at higher levels, this is probably a side effect of players who either use the level skip to get with their friends at level 60 or players who have never played a dps job prior to Stormblood suddenly hopping over to SAM or RDM. Any earlier than level 50 and you potentially could get someone who is extremely new to RPGs and might not even realize they have Role actions such as Goad and Invigorate which supplement AoE.
    I am talking about DR:Expert dungeons specifically. I personally don't bother with the other DR's very often unless I am levelling, which I only do if I have excess time.
    I generally don't expect pre-70 dungeons to be mass pulled because often times the tank is just not confident. Which is fine, I don't really care.. My point is when there are tanks that are pulling big groups, but the other DPS is still single-targeting.

    Well the two DPS in these runs weren't RDM or SAM. They were actually MNK and NIN. This happened in HW and ARR too, but I was just a bit shocked when it happened twice in a row in a DR:Ex.

    Totally fine with new players just not understanding stuff, or even people that have been playing for a while. That's why I am a mentor and am happy to give people tips if they are willing to hear them.
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